The "suck it up, buttercup" bill

[LivingAlmostLarge]

rennigade it's not really polite to call people names by calling them snowflake. You know that's an alt-right term? But of course since it's liberals your insulting it's okay right?

Storm maybe where you live it's a good area. But a few friends are considering leaving the country as muslims and going back to Canada. And yes they are feeling unwelcome.

Mental Health is a huge stigma. And even in the best of times people don't have access to care. So what if the trigger is the election. is it any different from any other trigger? Does it matter why someone picks up a gun and opens fire? Or maybe we should have helped before it came to that.

[StormRichards]

rennigade it's not really polite to call people names by calling them snowflake. You know that's an alt-right term? But of course since it's liberals your insulting it's okay right?

Storm maybe where you live it's a good area. But a few friends are considering leaving the country as muslims and going back to Canada. And yes they are feeling unwelcome.

Mental Health is a huge stigma. And even in the best of times people don't have access to care. So what if the trigger is the election. is it any different from any other trigger? Does it matter why someone picks up a gun and opens fire? Or maybe we should have helped before it came to that.

I live in a city with crime, poverty, etc. There have been protests, including one last night. But I haven't seen any reports of racial slurs sprayed on someone's property or any reports of racially motivated violence.

So what are you suggesting? Play-Doh for everyone? Do people get to choose what color they receive? If not, handing someone the wrong color could be perceived as racist.

[james.hendrickson]

Guys - I am piping up here wearing my administrator hat.

We've had couple of reports about this thread.

I wanted to remind everyone in this thread that we try to maintain a respectful tone here in Saving Advice. Lets please try to stay focused on the substance of what we are discussing without resorting to hot button terms which are going to get folks worked up. So, please be careful about terms such as "snowflake", "Wingnuts" or "buttercup".

Lets maintain our spirited discussion tone in a respectful manner.

[StormRichards]

Guys - I am piping up here wearing my administrator hat.

We've had couple of reports about this thread.

I wanted to remind everyone in this thread that we try to maintain a respectful tone here in Saving Advice. Lets please try to stay focused on the substance of what we are discussing without resorting to hot button terms which are going to get folks worked up. So, please be careful about terms such as "snowflake", "Wingnuts" or "buttercup".

Lets maintain our spirited discussion tone in a respectful manner.

I respect that you are in a tough position with threads like this, and certainly would not be offended if you felt the need to shut this thread down. The term buttercup was part of the story and the word the lawmaker was using. Although I agree with much of what the lawmaker is complaining about, I understand that term may be offensive to some.

To play devil's advocate, the same can be said about the extremists on the left portraying Trump supporters as "racists" and "nationalists"

[rennigade]

You know that's an alt-right term?

I have no idea what alt-right is, never heard of it? It sounds like a made up word. Kinda like when people thought it was cool to mash names together...(brangelina anyone)

I have heard the snowflake term before but always viewed it as a young generation, never exposed to anything, they're pure as snow, very fragile. I could be way off here.

[StormRichards]

I have no idea what alt-right is, never heard of it? It sounds like a made up word. Kinda like when people thought it was cool to mash names together...(brangelina anyone)

I have heard the snowflake term before but always viewed it as a young generation, never exposed to anything, they're pure as snow, very fragile. I could be way off here.

According to wikipedia

"The term originated in the United States, a reference to parents reportedly raising their children as "special" and "precious" snowflakes"

[bjl584]

I have no idea what alt-right is, never heard of it? It sounds like a made up word. Kinda like when people thought it was cool to mash names together...(brangelina anyone)

I have heard the snowflake term before but always viewed it as a young generation, never exposed to anything, they're pure as snow, very fragile. I could be way off here.

It's something to do with peoples' perception of the younger generation being too sensitive and fragile. They "melt" like a snowflake at the first sign of trauma, discomfort, offense, etc.

[disneysteve]

This thread took a sharp turn into personal attacks and insults. I removed a bunch of posts along those lines. If anyone wants to further discuss the original topic, that's fine, but please stick to that.

[msomnipotent]

As for the bill in the article, I totally agree with criminal penalties for protestors who block traffic. I think they should all be hauled off and fined or jailed. Peaceful protests are fine. Stand up and wave your signs at traffic. But as soon as you block others from going about their business, you've gone too far.

I don't think that protesters should even be allowed to divert drivers' attention at all. One of my classmates was killed when protesters where shouting at drivers on a busy road and a distracted woman drove over his motorcycle at a traffic light. I think that any protester that causes something like that should be charged with murder. Shout at the people you are protesting and stop dragging innocent people into your mess.

It's something to do with peoples' perception of the younger generation being too sensitive and fragile. They "melt" like a snowflake at the first sign of trauma, discomfort, offense, etc.

I thought it was because they are all so very special that no two are alike. I haven't heard of alt-right until now. I looked it up on Wiki and I'm still not positive what it is, except that they are pro-phobias and full of "isms". I can never remember which side is blue, which is red, which is the donkey, etc. It really doesn't matter to me because all politicians are useless clowns in my book.


Has college changed that much since my youngest sister attended? She was required to provide her own health insurance at an additional cost to tuition if she wasn't already covered under my parents. This included any sort of mental health services. If she didn't have it, she would get emergency services and transferred to a hospital on her own dime. Why is any taxpayer money used for this?

[disneysteve]

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/11/17/kellyanne-conway-and-ted-cruz-deride-trump-protesters-as-snowfl/21608778/

Trump's campaign manager and senior advisor, Kellyanne, Conway, has called those protesting the election outcome "precious snowflakes". Senator Ted Cruz referred to them as "idiots".

Isn't it great to see how hard these folks are working to unite all Americans?

[StormRichards]

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/11/1...owfl/21608778/

Trump's campaign manager and senior advisor, Kellyanne, Conway, has called those protesting the election outcome "precious snowflakes". Senator Ted Cruz referred to them as "idiots".

Isn't it great to see how hard these folks are working to unite all Americans?

I applaud their honesty

[disneysteve]

I applaud their honesty

It's tough to have diplomacy and honesty at the same time. Is this what the next 4 years are going to look like, with the President and his staff insulting those who they don't agree with? Oh yes, it's just "locker room talk", right? It doesn't mean anything.

[pflyers85]

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/11/1...owfl/21608778/

Trump's campaign manager and senior advisor, Kellyanne, Conway, has called those protesting the election outcome "precious snowflakes". Senator Ted Cruz referred to them as "idiots".

Isn't it great to see how hard these folks are working to unite all Americans?

To be fair Kellyanne Conway is a Trump surrogate. It's not really her job to unite Americans. She's going to go on TV and feed the base their red meat. Valerie Jarrett and others for Obama did the same thing for folks on the left. Cruz referred to the people disrupting traffic and laying in the street as idiots. I think many reasonable people can agree that is a really idiotic thing to do.

[FLA]

but this is coming at a time when Trump says he is uniting the people, having Conway call them precious snowflakes is completely oppositional to what he is allegedly trying to do.

Obama and his people tended to treat people with dignity. Compare his campaigns to Trump's. I don't remember him deliberately offending huge groups of citizens.

[disneysteve]

To be fair Kellyanne Conway is a Trump surrogate. It's not really her job to unite Americans.

No, it isn't specifically her job, but she is one of his advisors, a member of his team. They should all be working together to send a unified message and portray a common tone. How can Trump try to unite anything if his senior advisor is out saying stuff like this?

Cruz referred to the people disrupting traffic and laying in the street as idiots. I think many reasonable people can agree that is a really idiotic thing to do.

The quote from Cruz was, ""These are now the idiots that are protesting in the street and laying down their bodies in front of cars and disrupting traffic." If he's only referring to the people blocking traffic, I would agree completely. But that statement can also be read as more broadly calling everyone "protesting in the street" an idiot. I don't agree with that. I guess the question is who his comment was actually directed at, so I'll withhold judgement on that matter.