Obama or McCain

[cargirl86]

I'm voting for Obama.

I was very supportive of him at the beginning of the year; however, the more I learn about Obama, the less enthusiastic I become.

But my stances on certain issues that are most important to me usually line up with the Democratic party, which is why I'm a registered Democrat. And while his voting record isn't that impressive, I agree with (most of) Obama's votes. I believe he can and will change the face of the politics in Washington. Now, do I believe that it will be any better than what we currently have? I don't know. But I also don't think it could be any worse.

In my opinion, McCain is the worst possible person for the job. His temper and abrasive personality are an almost instantaneous turn-off, and his voting record seals the deal. And now I'm reading that he doesn't even really know his vice-presidential pick all that well ... do we really need another poor decision maker in the White House?

JMO. I don't really want to get into a political discussion ... just answering the original question.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

McCain has had cancer 4x. Hmm. Sure long lived family but what does that mean if he dies or is incapacitated? I think that looking at his running mate is important. He'll be the oldest person sworn in. Reagan was 69, McCain 72.

[feh]

McCain has had cancer 4x. Hmm. Sure long lived family but what does that mean if he dies or is incapacitated? I think that looking at his running mate is important. He'll be the oldest person sworn in. Reagan was 69, McCain 72.

I agree. When I first heard about Palin, I thought it was a fairly shrewd choice. Now that I've had a couple days to think about it, it seems like a terrible mistake.

[Aleta]

Isn't Biden 70 years old?

[feh]

Isn't Biden 70 years old?

I believe he's 65.

[zooracer]

I agree. When I first heard about Palin, I thought it was a fairly shrewd choice. Now that I've had a couple days to think about it, it seems like a terrible mistake.

wasnt clinton just a governor from a small state?

[zooracer]

I'm voting for Obama.

I was very supportive of him at the beginning of the year; however, the more I learn about Obama, the less enthusiastic I become.

But my stances on certain issues that are most important to me usually line up with the Democratic party, which is why I'm a registered Democrat. And while his voting record isn't that impressive, I agree with (most of) Obama's votes. I believe he can and will change the face of the politics in Washington. Now, do I believe that it will be any better than what we currently have? I don't know. But I also don't think it could be any worse.

In my opinion, McCain is the worst possible person for the job. His temper and abrasive personality are an almost instantaneous turn-off, and his voting record seals the deal. And now I'm reading that he doesn't even really know his vice-presidential pick all that well ... do we really need another poor decision maker in the White House?

JMO. I don't really want to get into a political discussion ... just answering the original question.

my fear is that he is more marxist than democrat...as shown by some of his associations

[feh]

wasnt clinton just a governor from a small state?

It's not clear why you're mentioning Clinton or governorship. Please explain.

[zooracer]

It's not clear why you're mentioning Clinton or governorship. Please explain.

sorry, I thought they were talking about Palin's inexperience to be prez if McCain dies in office...

[LivingAlmostLarge]

Biden isn't president.

Also irony...Palin's 16 year old daughter Bristol is PREGNANT, keeping the baby of course, but getting married to the father. Gee sounds like a happy family. Such moral family values. :P Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news - CNN.com

And people are happy because it shows strong pro-life values. So much for abstinence only programs working. Guess it doesn't. But Europe has already proved that it doesn't.

Europe teaches sex education and look lower teen pregnancy, teen abortion, teen STDs. Hmmm..funny that sex education would do that. Adolescent Sexual Health in Europe and the U.S. - Why the Difference?

Gee, I wonder if it's because Abstinence only teaches sex is bad, naughty, wrong?

[feh]

sorry, I thought they were talking about Palin's inexperience to be prez if McCain dies in office...

We can discuss that if you'd like. It is (or should be) a major concern for voters.

[feh]

Biden isn't president.

Also irony...Palin's 16 year old daughter Bristol is PREGNANT, keeping the baby of course, but getting married to the father. Gee sounds like a happy family. Such moral family values. :P Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news - CNN.com

And people are happy because it shows strong pro-life values. So much for abstinence only programs working. Guess it doesn't. But Europe has already proved that it doesn't.

Europe teaches sex education and look lower teen pregnancy, teen abortion, teen STDs. Hmmm..funny that sex education would do that. Adolescent Sexual Health in Europe and the U.S. - Why the Difference?

Gee, I wonder if it's because Abstinence only teaches sex is bad, naughty, wrong?

Yes, the announcement that her daughter is pregnant has raised the issue of abstinence-only sex education. I've read reports that Palin supports it.

When you take this into consideration, along with her anti-choice position, and her support of teaching creationism in school, the impression created is that she's a member of the religious right. The Pat Robertson crowd loves her.

I think McCain was attempting a two-for: to attract women voters and to rally the religious right. She may do the latter, but not the former.

The vast majority of women voters are intelligent and thoughtful. They're not gonna vote for the McCain ticket just because of her gender, when most of her policy standings are at odds with what most women want. Additionally, moderates/independents, which McCain sorely needs, will be chased away by her stance on these social issues.

[zooracer]

LAL: I agree on the experience count... I'm really quite astonished that he would shoot himself in the foot like that, but (excuse my momentary lapse into logical thought processes) he must have some good reasoning behind it.... maybe?

But really, I'm less worried about the VP being somewhat inexperienced than I am the Pres... of course, preferably one would have both individuals have a strong resume, but this year's elections have proven to be quite.... distinctive.

it appears to be in the discussion already...

As I said, Clinton was POTUS and was only a governor of a small state previously.

Palin is not POTUS, but VP

sorry, dont see the issue

[feh]

it appears to be in the discussion already...

As I said, Clinton was POTUS and was only a governor of a small state previously.

Palin is not POTUS, but VP

sorry, dont see the issue

It's hard not to see the issue:

• McCain is 72 and has had serious health issues.
• Clinton was nominated/elected by the public; Palin was chosen by one person.
• McCain has repeatedly made statements regarding what a dangerous world we live in and how the VP needs to be ready to take command on day one. Palin has zero national or international experience - two years ago she was the mayor of a town of 7000 people.

Even if you do want to compare Clinton to Palin, there are stark differences. Palin has been governor for 18 months. When Clinton was elected President, he had been involved in national politics for 20 years. He'd been governor for 14 years.

In the end, VP picks make very little/no difference anyway, so it's probably a moot point. But I noticed on intrade.com this morning that they have a new category: likelihood that Palin will be withdrawn as the VP choice.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

What foreign policy experience does she have? She doesn't even know probably where all the Middle East Countries are and whose running them.

Second, McCain didn't vet her properly. If her daughter is 4-5 months pregnant and he vettted her May/June, she might not have known yet for sure her daughter was pregnant. Or is it wrong to assume a teenager only 4-8 weeks pregnant or earlier would know?

McCain might have made a fatal flaw.

Plus now there are emails about her firing her BIL? Using her power unethically? That he did know about, but ignored it.

There is a saying...better to deal with the devil you know (Romney, Huckabee, Lieberman) than the devil you don't (Palin). I think he should have vetted better or used someone already vetted.