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    As I've posted before, we have covered the first 2 years of college without needing any loans. We've known all along that when year 3 rolled around, we would need to start borrowing to cover costs.

    DD signed the promissory note last week for her first Stafford loan of $7,500. DW and I will also be taking a Parent PLUS loan for the remainder of what we need. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how much to borrow. The problem is with my new job, my income is higher (not that that's actually a problem ) so I can't accurately predict how much we will need to cover with the loan. I don't want to take out more than we need and pay interest unnecessarily. On the flip side, though, there is no prepayment penalty so if we do borrow more than we end up needing, I can just make an early repayment of principal to minimize the interest. There is also a cash flow issue. I might earn enough to cover costs 100% but I won't actually have all of that money in time for when tuition is due.

    So the end result is that we'll probably borrow about $15,000 and plan to pay about $5,000 out of pocket. Then with the additional income from the new job, I'll make substantial payments on the loan, likely $1,000/month or more, so we won't need to carry that loan for more than a year or so. Another option is to tap some savings and either borrow less or repay the loan faster. We'll need to borrow again next year for her final year and do the same, aggressively repaying it while she's still in school.

    The other piece of the puzzle is how much DD will be paying toward the loans. She currently pays us $450/month toward school expenses. The plan is for her to start using that money to pay her loan instead rather than deferring it until after graduation. So if she borrows $7,500 and pays back $450/month, by next year, she'll have repaid $5,400 of it leaving about a $2,100 balance. She'll then borrow another $7,500 and by graduation, repay another $5,400 so she'll come out owing about $4,200 on those loans.

    So the end result should be that upon graduation, the total student loan debt shouldn't come to more than maybe $10,000. She and we will take out loans but will basically cash flow the repayment over the next two years.
    Steve

    * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
    * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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    I wouldn't worry too much about taking out more than you need. The effect will be negligible as long as you don't take out too much more than you need. And, it sounds like you aren't going to anyway. You'll be able to figure out pretty close what you need. When I went to grad school I knew what tuition would be per credit for the entire calendar year, and I knew how many credits I would be taking in said calendar year. Some simple math, and I knew within a few dollars how much I would need. I paid for books out of pocket, and bought them online at half.com. I commuted, so no need to figure out room and board or a meal plan.
    Brian

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
      You'll be able to figure out pretty close what you need. When I went to grad school I knew what tuition would be per credit for the entire calendar year, and I knew how many credits I would be taking in said calendar year. Some simple math, and I knew within a few dollars how much I would need.
      Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. I know exactly how much tuition and fees are. What I don't know is how much of it we won't be able to cover out of pocket.

      I recently started a new part time job. How much I earn varies based on how much I work. Last week, I didn't work at all. This week I'm working 12 hours. Next week, as of right now, I'm not scheduled to work though that may change. So I can't really sit down and calculate how much we'll have in savings at the time the January tuition payment is due.

      Basically, I'm going to borrow a little less than the actual amount needed because I'm positive we can cover at least a few thousand of the bill out of current savings.
      Steve

      * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
      * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
      * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
        Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. I know exactly how much tuition and fees are. What I don't know is how much of it we won't be able to cover out of pocket.

        I recently started a new part time job. How much I earn varies based on how much I work. Last week, I didn't work at all. This week I'm working 12 hours. Next week, as of right now, I'm not scheduled to work though that may change. So I can't really sit down and calculate how much we'll have in savings at the time the January tuition payment is due.

        Basically, I'm going to borrow a little less than the actual amount needed because I'm positive we can cover at least a few thousand of the bill out of current savings.
        Gotcha. Even if you borrowed more than you needed I'd think the interest would be negligible since it sounds like you'll be paying while she's in school anyway.
        Brian

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
          Gotcha. Even if you borrowed more than you needed I'd think the interest would be negligible since it sounds like you'll be paying while she's in school anyway.
          It's too bad that SLs aren't lines of credit.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nutria View Post
            It's too bad that SLs aren't lines of credit.
            If they were, they'd probably have a higher interest rate and/or variable rate so I'm okay with them being the way they are.

            That said, that's essentially how we're going to use the PLUS loan. We'll take it out now and start repaying it right away. If we had one more year to save, we could have cash flowed everything most likely but it didn't work out that way.
            Steve

            * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
            * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
            * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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            • #7
              I appreciate your post on this. I expect we will end up doing something similar at some point, taking out loans but then paying back as soon as possible. We don't need to do that this next year though.

              To leave college with $10K or less in loans (and then have them paid off in under two years) is a rare thing, but shows it is completely possible!
              My other blog is Your Organized Friend.

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              • #8
                Sounds like great plan.
                LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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                • #9
                  as long as you dont exceed that aggregate average of 37k you should be felling really good
                  retired in 2009 at the age of 39 with less than 300K total net worth

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 97guns View Post
                    as long as you dont exceed that aggregate average of 37k you should be felling really good
                    Well the total amount borrowed will exceed 37K but the amount owed by the time of graduation should be way lower than that.
                    Steve

                    * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                    * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                    • #11
                      How much does college cost now? I'm getting scared. I have my eldest turning 11 this year and entering Middle School (public) but as some of you may know, I have only $2K saved up for college so far.

                      Congrats Disneysteve for making it midway of college for your daughter. I'm sure you'll be fine with your high salary as a Doctor.
                      Kill the debt, before it kills you!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Randomsaver View Post
                        How much does college cost now? I'm getting scared. I have my eldest turning 11 this year and entering Middle School (public) but as some of you may know, I have only $2K saved up for college so far.
                        My daughter is at a public university in the midwest. We pay $10K just for room and board. The tuition for the year (15 credits/two semesters) with fees is about $8200. It's the room and board that is the most expensive.

                        I would suggest saving as much as you can, and then keep applying what you are able to save each year to college tuition. Also start researching costs at places near you or that you expect your child may go. Freshman often receive pretty nice scholarships the first year (although don't count on it until it happens).
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Randomsaver View Post
                          How much does college cost now?
                          As much or as little as you want it to. My daughter could have gone to school for free or for any price up to and even exceeding $60,000/year depending on the school she chose.

                          Much of the hype about college prices is just that - hype. You can't choose an elite private school and then complain about the cost. If cost is an issue, there are affordable options, especially if your kid is a good student.

                          One thing to keep in mind is to not let the "sticker price" of the school scare you off. Very few if any students actually pay that posted price. At most schools, upwards of 95% of students get some kind of aid. My daughter gets a bit over $20,000 in scholarship and grant money.
                          Steve

                          * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                          * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                          * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                          • #14
                            Less money you make the more affordable options appear if you have a stellar student.
                            LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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                            • #15
                              Why don't you use your savings and clear off the debt faster?

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