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  • What is the Lifetime Cost of Cable TV?

    Came accross this today and thought I'd share... Maybe nothing revolutionary, but the numbers certainly appealed to me and my DW in confirming our idea not to get AT&T Uverse.

    The Lifetime Cost of Cable TV

    Last updated by G.E. Miller on January 11, 2014

    We’ve been talking a lot about wants vs. needs lately and how to control your wants. One of the most notorious wants that many struggle with is cable TV.

    That’s right – cable TV is a want. You would have a very hard time winning a debate on the argument that satellite or cable TV is a need.

    However, most of us have justified the expense. Partly, because it comes conveniently wrapped in a monthly payment plan.

    According to CNN, the average cable bill is $75 per month and has been rising by 5% annually, outpacing inflation due to content provider negotiations for more money per subscriber (which providers then pass along to customers).

    Taking a look at Comcast’s prices,

    ■Digital starter, their lowest-tier digital cable plan costs $60.98 per month
    ■Adding HD DVR is another $15.95 per month
    ■Total: $76.93 (before taxes)

    That may not seem like a lot, but when you compound it over many years and look at the opportunity cost, you start to see just how expensive cable TV really is…

    The Lifetime Cost of Cable
    What if, instead of purchasing cable, you were to get rid of cable and add your monthly savings to your investment portfolio?

    What would you theoretically be missing out on, or paying over your lifetime?

    To calculate, let’s assume:

    ■You start paying for cable at age 23.
    ■The starting price is the average price quoted earlier, $75, and there is inflation on the price of 5% annually (real cable inflation percentage).
    ■You continue paying for cable until the age of 80.
    ■We are using after tax dollars (which is what you pay for cable) that grow tax free in a Roth IRA.

    We’ll then figure out the lifetime cost of cable at different investment return levels using the AARP investment calculator:

    ■4%: $634,970
    ■6%: $1,102,950
    ■8%: $2,081,549
    ■10%: $4,209,990

    We’re looking at anywhere from $634K on the low end to $4.2 million on the high end! Considering that the average retirement savings per household in the United States is $18,000, the alarm bells should be going off.

    This, of course, does not take into account that the average American watches 81 hours of TV per month, 972 hours per year, or over 55,000 hours per the 57 years we used in this post. What additional return in skill development, work, networking, or exercising could you gain from having an another 55,000 hours of life?

    That’s only one common expense. Kind of scary.

    Source: http://20somethingfinance.com/lifeti...t-of-cable-tv/
    Questions:
    1. Does this view of cable costs change your outlook on justifying it as an expense?
    2. How much are you paying per month for cable?
    3. Why do you keep paying for cable?
    ~ Eagle

  • #2
    I won't change a thing. I enjoy my Direct TV. But then, I can afford it.

    If I found myself in financial trouble, then the TV would go. But, for now, I'm keeping it. I save and invest a very large percentage of my income. Large enough that I'm not worried about the cost of cable.

    If you want to extrapolate the costs of things, then you could repeat this exercise with almost anything and everything that you regularly spend money on. Maybe a good exercise to do if you are having financial troubles.
    Brian

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    • #3
      I refuse to pay for Direct Tv/Cable as 90% of the programing is complete junk. I never cease to be amazed at how so many of the programs are a complete waste of time.

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      • #4
        I guess you bring up a good point bjl584. If people can afford cable it shouldn't be an issue.

        However, lot's of people have cable who can't afford it. Or at the very least who probably shouldn't have it.

        Many people view it as a need instead of a want these days. If a person is kneck deep in debt they probably shouldn't have cable.

        Then again what is the measurement of saying a person can or can't afford cable?
        ~ Eagle

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        • #5
          Perhaps the point of point of the OP was to point out that stuff often costs more than we're aware of and that we should look more closely at things to determine if we're getting value (or utlity... and yes, pleasure can be a value) in relation to the amount of money we're paying.

          Also we should look at cost per hour to determine what we're paying for said services. In other words how many hours a week do we watch tv as compared to what we're paying for the service.
          ~ Eagle

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Eagle View Post
            Also we should look at cost per hour to determine what we're paying for said services. In other words how many hours a week do we watch tv as compared to what we're paying for the service.
            Installment plans are meant to "hide" the true cost of things which is why people (who can't afford it) will buy a new TV for $25 per week for 2 years (=$2600!)

            I started a thread a long time ago questioning the impact if people had to pay for 1 full year of costs/services at one time. Imagine if you had to plunk down $1000 for a year of cable, $3600 for a year of groceries, or $4000 for a year of car payments. It would certainly cause me to re-evaluate some expenses.

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            • #7
              I am happy with Dish Network and having seperate HD DVRs for the kids/adults.

              Current bill is $44.95 plus tax for 12 months (They matched a direct tv offer to keep us). Its a bit of work to call or message them every 12 months to complain, but the cost savings is worth it.

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              • #8
                We were paying $100 per month for Directv for a while.

                We got rid of it a little over 3 years ago. We decided to put that money in a car replacement fund. At the end of 3 years we had $3,600.

                I don't think we will ever get it back. We have an antenna with a Tivo with lifetime and we have Netflix.

                I read an article the other day that said that most of the "millennial generation" will never even get cable TV, there are just too many other ways to watch what you want to watch.

                Dawn

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dawnwes View Post
                  We were paying $100 per month for Directv for a while.

                  We got rid of it a little over 3 years ago. We decided to put that money in a car replacement fund. At the end of 3 years we had $3,600.

                  I don't think we will ever get it back. We have an antenna with a Tivo with lifetime and we have Netflix.

                  I read an article the other day that said that most of the "millennial generation" will never even get cable TV, there are just too many other ways to watch what you want to watch.

                  Dawn
                  Yes, I read a similar article recently about the millenial generation. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/5-i...ing-2014-06-21


                  Cable TV
                  It’s unclear where streaming video is headed in the next several years. But it’s clear that the future is likely with Netflix or Google property YouTube and not an old-guard cable company.

                  Consider that for the first time ever, the number of pay-TV lines in the U.S. fell last year — with a drop of about 250,000 subscriptions over the calendar year. That’s a big number, and a number that seems to be growing at an alarming rate.

                  Alarming, at least, if you’re a company like Comcast or Time Warner Cable.

                  Part of the problem is “cord cutting” as folks with cable TV find options on Netflix or other streaming providers at a fair price. But increasingly, traditional cable-TV businesses are going to face the big pressure of Millennials and so-called “ cord nevers ” who haven’t ever had an affinity to cable and see no reason to start anytime soon when so much of their entertainment is consumed via laptop, tablet or smartphone.

                  Clearly the industry is circling the wagons, with Comcast bidding for Time Warner. Similarly, AT&T is looking to snap up DirecTV — not just to bolster its U-Verse pay-TV business but also to help the company transition into a new content delivery company in the Internet age.

                  There are big pressures ahead for those that can’t evolve with the times. So while investors may like the dividends of some previously reliable telecoms, it’s important not to forget the long-term headwinds for anything related to cable TV.
                  Last edited by Eagle; 06-27-2014, 04:19 AM.
                  ~ Eagle

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                  • #10
                    I can afford cable/satellite tv, but I refuse to pay the going price. I think $30-40 per month is a fair price, and I've been a customer in the past of Dish when they had 2 year introductory pricing in that range.

                    But, the non-introductory costs seem to be anywhere between $50-100 or more. No thanks; I've been content w/ what I can get over the air for the last 6 years now (coupled with Netflix).
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