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    Looking to Refi our home. Brought home in 2011 for 180k. Rate of 4.875 30 year fixed FHA. Mortgage payment is $1391 which includes Principal and Interest-$928.43 per month, Mortgage Insurance-$125.26 per month and Taxes and Insurance-$337.54 per month)

    Now with recent raise in home prices my home is worth around 230k. Outstanding balance is 169k. If I refi I can get rid of FHA MIP which I hate paying.I expect to be in this home for 20+ years.

    So new loan/deal is ---

    169,000@4.875%-30 year fixed conventional loan-(1 point discount)
    Principal and Interest-$894.36 per month
    Taxes and Insurance-$337.54 per month
    No MIP
    Total Payment-$1,231.90 per month

    Today I got the initial fees worksheet. Shows total estimated funds to close at $6,738 which would be rolled in to the new loan.

    Is this a good deal? The difference between 1391 and 1231 would still be going to the principal.

    Thanks

  • #2
    The total estimated funds to close at $6,738 break down like this

    Estimated Prepaid items/reserves - 2563.42
    Estimated closing costs - 2685
    Discount (borrower paid) - 1208.35

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    • #3
      That origination for a 4.875 sounds a little high unless your credit under 700, maybe under 680?

      I do mortgages in CA and right now with 0 points it's around 4.625-4.75 depending on credit.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ashley_s View Post
        That origination for a 4.875 sounds a little high unless your credit under 700, maybe under 680?

        I do mortgages in CA and right now with 0 points it's around 4.625-4.75 depending on credit.
        I agree, that rate does seem pretty high. I work as an underwriter, and most 4.875% loans are getting a couple of points back in yield spread. I would shop around.

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        • #5
          We refinanced in April and paid a total of $400 for the appraisal.

          2.65% on a 15 year loan. No points, no fees other than appraisal.

          The rates you are getting are very high.

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          • #6
            Closing is $6,700 and to get rid of a $125/mo payment?

            It will take you close to 5 years to break even.

            I would not do it.

            I think you can find better.

            However, one question.....does that include an escrow fund? That is essentially YOUR money, not a payment.

            Originally posted by ukgaz View Post
            Looking to Refi our home. Brought home in 2011 for 180k. Rate of 4.875 30 year fixed FHA. Mortgage payment is $1391 which includes Principal and Interest-$928.43 per month, Mortgage Insurance-$125.26 per month and Taxes and Insurance-$337.54 per month)

            Now with recent raise in home prices my home is worth around 230k. Outstanding balance is 169k. If I refi I can get rid of FHA MIP which I hate paying.I expect to be in this home for 20+ years.

            So new loan/deal is ---

            169,000@4.875%-30 year fixed conventional loan-(1 point discount)
            Principal and Interest-$894.36 per month
            Taxes and Insurance-$337.54 per month
            No MIP
            Total Payment-$1,231.90 per month

            Today I got the initial fees worksheet. Shows total estimated funds to close at $6,738 which would be rolled in to the new loan.

            Is this a good deal? The difference between 1391 and 1231 would still be going to the principal.

            Thanks

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