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  • #16
    Originally posted by BuckyBadger View Post
    I worry about one thing that is missing from your budget, though -- where is your current retirement savings?
    Re-read the first post:

    contributing 10% of my base pay with a match of 4% of my total salary.
    Steve

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    • #17
      Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
      Re-read the first post:
      Gotcha. I thought that was his old 401k. I didn't read closely enough to see that he has one with his current employer.

      My bad :-)

      Starting a ROTH as soon as they can still wouldn't be a bad idea, though!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BuckyBadger View Post
        Starting a ROTH as soon as they can still wouldn't be a bad idea, though!
        Agreed. Standard advice is to fund the 401k just enough to get the full match, then fund the Roth up to the max, then go back to the 401k.
        Steve

        * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by hohlernr View Post
          I've already signed up for a 0% balance transfer cc to hopefully rid myself of the interest payments and by the time the promotional period ends, I should have the credit cards payed off. I'm also going to work on cutting my discretionary spending down and putting more of the at towards my ccs.
          Keep in mind that while I think utilizing a 0% balance transfer is a smart idea in your situation, it can have a negative effect on your credit scores if you're not careful. You may not care if you're not planning to rely on your credit scores anytime soon, but it's still worth thinking about. I know that after I got married I relied on my FICO scores for a lot of different things.

          Just pay close attention to what credit limit you're offered and how much credit card debt you're transferring. For example, if you're offered an $8,000 credit limit and you transfer $6,000 to the new card, your credit utilization on that card will be 75% and your overall credit utilization should increase as well. That's going to really hurt your FICO scores.

          Ideally, you want to keep your CU ratio on any particular card (or overall) at 10% or less. Once you bump above 30% you can expect it to have a pretty significant negative effect on your scores.
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          • #20
            First, I want to say thanks for all the advice! I am extremely impressed with the helpfulness of everyone on this site!

            Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
            Agreed. Standard advice is to fund the 401k just enough to get the full match, then fund the Roth up to the max, then go back to the 401k.
            My 401k is a Roth 401k. Should I continue funding this at my current rate, or should I put enough to get my full match and then start a roth IRA? Forgive me if this is a stupid idea/question, but I really don't know too much about 401ks and IRA. What is your advice?

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            • #21
              Although the "cashing out the 401k" option has been taken care of, let me just comment on that aspect of it. First of all, you should make sure that you are actually fully vested in it and that all the money the company matched is actually yours. Most companies have a "waiting period" (usually around 5 years or so) until all the money they matched is actually yours. I'd check that out. After doing so, you might want to look into rolling that 401k into an IRA since you most likely will have better options and expenses with an IRA.

              That would bring me to this:

              Originally posted by hohlernr View Post
              My 401k is a Roth 401k. Should I continue funding this at my current rate, or should I put enough to get my full match and then start a roth IRA? Forgive me if this is a stupid idea/question, but I really don't know too much about 401ks and IRA. What is your advice?
              What investment options do you have in the 401k and what are the expense ratios on them? If your choices are limited and the expenses high, you'd be better off just contributing to the match and going elsewhere for the Roth. List a few (or all if there aren't many) of your 401k options and we'd have a better idea on how to answer the question.
              The easiest thing of all is to deceive one's self; for what a man wishes, he generally believes to be true.
              - Demosthenes

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              • #22
                Here are my options:

                READY MIX OPTIONS
                Blended Fund Investments*
                Asset Allocation
                * BTC LIFEPATH 2050 J
                Inception Date 12/18/2007 -2.99 2.05 N/A N/A -5.15 09/30/2011
                BTC LIFEPATH 2045 J
                Inception Date 12/18/2007 -2.40 2.03 -0.78 N/A 0.16 09/30/2011


                MIX-YOUR-OWN OPTIONS
                Stock Investments
                Company Stock
                * DOW STOCK
                Inception Date 01/31/2001 -15.56 -7.28 -6.66 -0.09 -0.03 09/30/2011
                * DOW ESOP STOCK FUND
                Inception Date 05/22/2009 -15.71 N/A N/A N/A 12.93 09/30/2011
                Large Cap Growth
                FID GROWTH CO K
                Inception Date 01/17/1983 4.49 6.96 4.22 6.19 12.23 09/30/2011
                FID CONTRAFUND K
                Inception Date 05/17/1967 1.08 3.66 2.33 6.85 11.95 09/30/2011
                Large Cap Blend
                US LARGE CAP BLEND
                Inception Date 09/01/2006 -0.20 2.60 -0.64 N/A -0.28 09/30/2011
                S&P 500 INDEX FUND
                Inception Date 09/01/2006 1.15 1.35 -1.08 N/A -0.68 09/30/2011
                Large Cap Value
                VANG WINDSOR II ADM
                Inception Date 05/14/2001 0.06 0.19 -2.38 3.63 2.28 09/30/2011
                Mid-Cap Growth
                TRP IS MID CP EQ GR
                Inception Date 07/31/1996 1.57 7.71 4.53 8.82 10.01 09/30/2011
                Mid-Cap Blend
                VANG EXT MKT IDX INS
                Inception Date 07/07/1997 -1.99 3.10 0.81 7.34 5.57 09/30/2011
                FID LOW PRICED STK K
                Inception Date 12/27/1989 1.49 6.88 2.19 9.35 13.49 09/30/2011
                Mid-Cap Value
                VANG SELECTED VALUE
                Inception Date 02/15/1996 -1.29 5.20 0.10 6.88 6.61 09/30/2011
                Small Cap Blend
                SMALL CAP INDEX FUND
                Inception Date 02/01/2001 -2.91 1.66 -2.07 3.27 -0.63 09/30/2011
                NB GENESIS - INST CL
                Inception Date 07/01/1999 6.14 1.73 4.61 10.04 10.48 09/30/2011
                World
                VANG GLOBAL EQ INV
                Inception Date 08/14/1995 -7.31 0.02 -2.95 6.89 7.20 09/30/2011
                Foreign
                VANG DEV MKTS INST
                Inception Date 05/08/2000 -10.11 -1.86 -3.50 4.95 0.82 09/30/2011
                FID DIVERSIFD INTL K
                Inception Date 12/27/1991 -10.82 -2.88 -3.54 6.31 7.83 09/30/2011
                Diversfd Emerging Mkts
                EMERGING MARKETS IDX
                Inception Date 02/08/2010 -17.66 N/A N/A N/A 0.73 09/30/2011
                Specialty
                AM CENT REAL EST IS
                Inception Date 06/16/1997 5.04 -3.87 -3.72 9.08 8.12 09/30/2011
                PIM COM REAL RET I
                Inception Date 06/28/2002 4.38 0.33 2.45 N/A 10.00 09/30/2011
                Convertibles
                VANG CONVERTIBLE SEC
                Inception Date 06/17/1986 -3.35 7.79 3.77 6.81 7.95 09/30/2011
                Bond Investments
                Long Government
                VANG LT TREASURY ADM
                Inception Date 02/12/2001 16.99 12.91 10.56 8.48 8.53 09/30/2011
                Intermed Government
                PIM REAL RETURN INST
                Inception Date 01/29/1997 7.65 9.77 7.47 7.45 7.70 09/30/2011
                Intermediate-Term
                PIM TOTAL RT INST
                Inception Date 05/11/1987 0.96 9.83 7.81 6.59 8.26 09/30/2011
                VANG TOT BD MK IS PL
                Inception Date 02/05/2010 5.30 N/A N/A N/A 6.98 09/30/2011
                High-Yield
                TRP HIGH YIELD INST
                Inception Date 05/31/2002 0.53 10.64 6.35 N/A 8.06 09/30/2011
                Stable Value
                INTEREST INCOME FUND
                Inception Date 02/28/2001 3.70 4.10 4.54 4.68 4.76 09/30/2011
                Short Term Investments

                US TREASURY FUND
                Inception Date 01/04/1993 0.04 0.22 1.63 1.91 3.29 09/30/2011

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                • #23
                  Right now most of my contributions is going into the BTC LIFEPATH 2045 J fund. The management fee is 0.15% and the expense ratio is 0.17%.

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