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  • #16
    I just wanted to re-iterate that you may make too much to contribute fully to a Roth and might have to go with the traditional non-deductible. However, every once in a while the government decides that it needs some extra money and they let you roll that traditional non-deductible into a Roth. You have to pay on your earnings when you roll it over, but after that it's a regular Roth and you'll never have to worry about paying taxes on that money again.

    We learned the hard way that we can't contribute to a Roth any more. Turbo Tax told us, actually! We had to take the money out (and whatever it earned) and then on next year's taxes we'll pay tax on the interest that we made during the short period of time it was in the Roth. From now on we'll be maxing out our traditional non-deductible IRS and twiddling our thumbs until Uncle Sam decides that he needs a little extra cash, then we'll roll it over.

    So my suggestions, like others, are as follows:

    max out your 401k (16,500 for each of you)
    max out your IRA of some kind (5,000 for each of you)
    pay off your car loan with your surplus cash
    refi your mortgage to a 15 year 4.25%

    That's just the easy stuff. Now you're at the point where my husband and I are. We were grad student for EVER, but now we're 30 and making $224k between the two of us. We PERSONALLY have chosen to take $1,000 per pay period (so 26,000 a year) and put it into additional long term investments. We take $500 per pay period and save it for stuff like vacations and big purchases. The rest of our money we spend.

    Now, I did recently waste about and hour playing around with an online amoritization (sp?) table to see how fast we could pay off our house if we really really wanted to and put all our extra money (outside of tax advantaged retirement accounts) toward it. It was fun, but we're not going to pay it off. We're at 4.5% and our P&I payment is only about $1,500. But it's fun to see how fast you could pay off your house if that were a goal.

    If you really are set and are maxing out your tax advantaged accounts AND putting aside something extra for retirement AND putting aside enough to enjoy your day to day life and have some special occassions, then your only real options are spend it on something you don't really want, save/invest it for some sort of mid term goal in the future, donate to charity, or attack your mortgage just because you can.

    eta: You could also open one of those college fund accounts, but as we don't have kids, I don't know anything about them.

    Good luck!

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    • #17
      I agree. If you live frugally, and learn to save as much money as you can, it will help you, even on a high salary.

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      • #18
        My wife and I both maxed out our Roth IRAs with Vanguard, 2055 fund to start.

        Now im going to check on refinancing the house. I'm also going to figure out how much i put monthly into my 401k.

        Which type would you all recommend? Roth 401k?

        After that im going to start putting everything into funds that show good appreciation track records.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kilboy View Post
          My wife and I both maxed out our Roth IRAs with Vanguard, 2055 fund to start.
          Glad to hear it. Also, a target-date fund is a good option for starting out with--I use a similar one in my Roth IRA as well. Simple, automatic diversity.
          Originally posted by kilboy View Post
          I'm also going to figure out how much i put monthly into my 401k. Which type would you all recommend? Roth 401k?
          The annual max is $16,500/yr, or $1,375/mo. If you're looking to max it out from here on out, you can subtract whatever you've contributed year-to-date, then divide the remainder by the number of months left in the year. (Ex: $3000 contributed Jan-Mar. $13,500 remains to be added over 9 months, so you want to add $1,500/mo Apr-Dec)

          As for Roth 401k v. regular 401k, the simplest way to think about it is this: Do you you think you would pay more taxes on the money today or in 40 years when you start to withdraw it? As you make a higher income (and your tax bracket goes up), the regular 401k becomes more beneficial. However, if you expect taxes to be dramatically higher once you retire, the Roth can still make sense. Another option that you might consider... Some companies allow you to contribute to both. Thus, you can hedge your bets, by paying taxes now on the Roth 401k portion, and delaying taxes on the regular 401k portion.

          Originally posted by kilboy View Post
          After that im going to start putting everything into funds that show good appreciation track records.
          As investment companies always say, "past performance is not an guarantee of future results." I would recommend that you first research the TYPES of investments that historically appreciate well. This way you can balance your assets, risk, and goals appropriately. Once you do that, THEN look into such things as fund expenses, management quality/stability, and yes, track records.

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          • #20
            Just an update. I want to thank everyone that helped and gave me advice. I opened an IRA for myself and another for my wife before taxes were due and maxed them out. I put them in the Vanguard Target Retirement 2055 Fund (VFFVX). I feel so blessed, we are now bringing in 10.5k a month after taxes and our monthly budget is 3,900. That is a bigger/liberal budget because I figure we're already saving 60% why not enjoy it while we can.

            Since we can now save 6,000 a month, im trying to find the best place for it. How diversified should I be? I really like the Vanguard funds.

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