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    Has anyone here heard of The One Account? It's something started by a European company that a co-worker told me about. He's doing it pretty successfully, and I was wondering if anyone here had any opinions about it. It's supposed to pay off a 30-year mortgage much faster and give you more financial flexibility.

    Here's how it's supposed to work:

    1. You open a home equity line of credit for the entire value of your mortgage (he says that when he was shopping around, several banks were willing to do this).
    2. You pay off your mortgage with your line of credit.
    3. Any income you earn each month is deposited into the line of credit as a payment.
    4. You use a credit card throughout the month for all of your purchases (or get the bank to link a debit card to the line of credit).
    5. Pay off the credit card balance at the end of the month with the line of credit.

    The idea is that the balance of the line of credit at the end of the month has been reduced by the amount you would normally pay into your mortgage, plus any savings you would have left over. In addition, the balance used to calculate interest will be lowered by your entire paycheck.

    For example, let's say you had a $125,000 balance on the line of credit and you get paid $3000 per month. Your normal mortgage payment is $750 per month and you usually have $250 left over in savings (I'm just using easy numbers). On the first of the month, $3000 would be deposited into the line of credit, reducing the balance to $122,000. You would use a credit card throughout the month for everything, and on the last day of the month, you would withdraw $2000 from the line of credit to pay off the credit card. The balance at the end of the month would be $124k + interest, which would be calculated on the balance of $122k which was maintained for the entire month. If you needed that $250 for something, you could just withdrawal it from the line of credit. In fact, my co-worker says that since a payment is technically made each month, you can effectively "skip" a mortgage payment if a big emergency comes up.

  • #2
    3 issues pop out at me, immediately. (Have heard of this before).

    1 - What are the odds, in this day and age, of getting a HELOC for your entire mortgage balance? Suppose it depends on the value of your home. In 2001 I could get a mortgage +LOC for 100%+ value of my home. I am sure it "Was" quite possible. These days are a little different. But, perhaps you have ample equity?

    2 - What is the interest rate on the HELOC? Is it variable? I'd bet you can get a lower fixed rate on a mortgage, which makes more sense for the long run. Particularly considering these record low rates.

    3 - What are the fees involved in this kind of setup? There was a similar model that involved the purchase of software for several thousands of dollars. You'd be better off putting that money to pay off your existing mortgage - it's a LOT easier.

    As an example, if my mortgage balance were always $1k lower for purpose of charging interest, I'd save $4 a month (or add $4/month to my principle). I understand that it snowballs with time, but really, we are talking very little in savings, with an elaborate plan like this. In general, the fees will far outweight the benefits of these kinds of schemes.
    Last edited by MonkeyMama; 05-19-2010, 11:58 AM.

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    • #3
      These are essentially a scam. I've heard both Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman talk about them. I don't recall all of the details but I do recall their warning to stay away from them.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by gallan View Post
        ...In fact, my co-worker says that since a payment is technically made each month, you can effectively "skip" a mortgage payment if a big emergency comes up.
        Or you could have a normal mortgage and an emergency fund.

        And if an emergency comes up that's too big, you could just not pay your mortgage one month and work it out with the bank to catch back up.

        The debt friendly attitude of the whole scenario tells me its just not a good idea. Tells me that people who use that "system" don't have a proper EF, and are likely to not aggressively pay down debt. If something comes up, just go further in debt! blech

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        • #5
          They are a scam to collect 3000+ in establishment fees for an product you do not need.

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          • #6
            The least costly and least risky way to pay off your mortgage faster is just to pay additional principal each month.

            These financial tricks, which I've seen called "amazing" by local news, are just fine and dandy until you have a hiccup. Then it's a house of cards collapsing on your head.

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            • #7
              This is the first that I have heard of this particular "program", but I would caution against it. You could accomplish the same thing cheaper by just paying extra toward your mortgage principle each month.

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              • #8
                United First or UFirst for short...
                The software is $3500. BS! You could spend a couple hours in Excel and make your own.

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                • #9
                  We had a long discussion about this a while ago. I did the math, and it just doesn't work...

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                  • #10
                    The other scary thing about this is that your home equity is waaaaay to accessible. You would have to be really disciplined to use this method without overspending and letting your debt creep up.

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                    • #11
                      These type of loans have been in Australia for yeaaaaaaars and are pretty common, not a 'scam', atleast not here. just another type of mortgage product that fits some people, and does not fit other people.
                      the advantages are that you save interest daily, because your expenses are on your credit card, and your wages are applied from the day it goes into your account.
                      they work for people that are disciplined about paying down their debt - NOT for people who are impulsive and don't understand that debt is meant to be paid off!essentially, those type of people will just use it as one big credit card. banks here, atleast, are pretty picky about who has these types of accounts, for obvious reasons. but with the right people, they work well.

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