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    We're interested in thoughts on using a portion of our home equity (via refinancing or or home equity loan) to invest in stock mutual funds.

    We're both military officers in our early-to-mid 40s and we currently both max out the Government Thrift Savings Program (TSP via stock funds - 401Ks basically) as well as fully fund 2 IRAs (traditional until we convert to Roth in 2010). We also invest additional in Vanguard stock mutual funds (Small Cap Index, Mid-Cap Index, 500 S&P Index, International Explorer, & Health Care) and a Vanguard Money Market Fund. We also invest each year for our 3 children's Vanguard 529 college plans (ages 14, 9 & 8 months). In total we're saving/investing about 26% of our gross income.

    When we leave the military in a few years, we'll get pretty decent pensions - $110K combined approximately at today's scale (with annual COLA adjustments for life), plus eventually whatever social security and our investments will provide. Our intent is to continue working at least 10-15 more years after the military, and we have approx. $500K invested now. So, with the pensions and current investments cushion (and life insurance), we're considering being even more aggressive and investing more for future retirement/legacy plans with our "idle" home equity.

    Believe we could take up to $200,000+ (much) of our current home equity on our primary residence (have a rental property also) and invest that in stock mutual funds also (or combine the home equity funds with our current mutual fund invesments to give to a money manager to build our portfolio even quicker). Is there a better investment choice than stock mutual funds or a money manager, does this seem too aggressive?

  • #2
    I'm not sure I understand this. You want to either take out a home equity loan or refinance with cash back and then take that money and invest it? That is not something I'd want to do. Even if you refinanced at 6% you'd have to make sure that your investments did better than 6% and you'd have to make payments to the loan while your money was tied up in an investment. If you have enough to make the loan payment or the higher mortgage payment after a refi, why don't you just use that money to invest with?

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    • #3
      Cash back refinancing is really what we're considering - and it should be available currently at less than 6% rate with our credit status. Believe our financial status - particularly with the pensions - facilitates being more aggressive with using the cash to invest in stock mutual funds or something similar with a long-term greater return (especially considering that the house has the added interest tax deductibility).

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      • #4
        Based on your situation-
        500k invested now, plus 200k+ home equity, I would advise against leveraging house for higher returns.

        Reasons-

        the 500k you have now will probably be $2 M in 15 years when you retire (it should double twice with an 9% return in 8 years). This excludes the value of future contributions.

        A criteria for retiring (IMO) would to be debt free. I would not incur more debt to retire with less than 15 year time horizon.

        With the current mortgage market, good luck with a cash out refinance.

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        • #5
          The best rates in Home Equity are around 4.25% variable and 6% fixed apr's respectively. If you are sure you can earn more than this, then maybe what you are trying to do makes sense in theory. I agree with Jim, however, and probably wouldn't risk it.

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