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    Everybody knows by now that the US House passed an economic stimulus package today, though it's still not a done deal since the Senate is looking to pass its own similar but expanded version. No reason to beat a dead horse here, so lets leave it at the whole package is going to cost us around $150 billion (roughly one percent of GDP).

    But here's something that will make you go "hmmm"...

    Late last year as the deadline was looming for Congress to either get an AMT patch done or hold its peace until next year, the House was forced to pass the Senate version in the eleventh hour to avoid having the proverbial millstone hanging around its neck in an election year. The sticking point? They didn't want to pass a bill that would eliminate $50 billion in tax revenues without paying for it through spending cuts or tax increases elsewhere.

    Here's another newsflash . . . where do you think the $150 billion getting paid out under the stimulus package is coming from? That's right, no where.

    So an unfunded $50 billion fix for a flawed tax code is problematic, but the House, the Senate and the Administration are tripping over themselves to give away $150 billion with no way to pay for it?

    If we're adding that much to the national deficit, I for one would like something show for it, especially since my tax dollars will be going towards just paying the interest on that for the rest of my life. And that much cash would do wonders for our national infrastructure and create more sustainable GDP growth, though admittedly it would be slower in showing up on the national accounts.

    What really makes me nervous though is that lackadaisical credit standards and easy money is what got us into this mess, and what makes the US government a more worthy borrower? Yeah, you've got that whole full faith and credit thing, but one of these days the rest of the world may realize that promissory note's not worth much more than the fiat currency it's printed on.

    I'm not some hard dollar fanatic who keeps his life savings in gold bars stashed under the mattress (at least if I were, I wouldn't broadcast it over the internet), but I'm irritated by the fact that my grandchildren will be paying for the bailout. This was an entirely preventable situation, and truth be told, I feel like the responsible parties should be held responsible.

    I say we send the bill to the major players who got knee-deep in the subprime muck. Heck, I'd even be nice and let them pay it off on an installment plan. Looking at the pay scales and bonuses at the major Wall Street players, plus the ridiculous profits made from subprime lending, they should be able to pay it off in about five years (and that's a conservative estimate). And letting the private sector pay it off in a matter of years, versus the governments timeframe of generations, is a lot more palatable.

    But that's purely my two cents.

    posted by Benjamin Shepherd

  • #2
    Give 'em hell, Ben

    Bravo

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    • #3
      Welcome, and quite the blockbuster first post.

      Yeah, it boils my blood just thinking about the amazingly short-sightedness that our current administration is demonstrating.

      Well, here's to hoping for the next.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the welcome, glad to be here.

        It really bothers me that being a tax-and-spend liberal now gives me greater claim to fiscal conservative credentials that many members of Congress who ran on that platform.

        Who's worse, a tax-and-spend liberal or a don't-tax-and-still-spend conservative?

        And I'm still not convinced that this economic stimulus plan is really going to accomplish much. It's true that consumer spending is the cornerstone of our economy and $150 billion flowing into the system in short order is a decent chunk of change, but how much of that is actually going to stay in the US?

        Here in America, most of what we buy is imported. Importers buy the stuff dirt cheap overseas, pass it along to retailers at a markup, then the retailers sell it to us at another markup. Assuming that both the retailer and the importer are US-based entities, that still leaves a pretty decent percentage of each dollar spent going overseas. Isn't the point to keep the money here? I doubt everyone who gets that check will make a conscious effort to only purchase American made goods.

        Now, I realize better minds than mine have looked at this up one side and down the other and see some benefit to it. And there will be a benefit. But it won't be the quick fix that so many seem to think it will be.

        If we're going to spend this kind of money (which is just going to be run off the ol' printing press), we need to do something where we'll realize real value. Like building roads, hospitals and schools or fixing bridges. Put all of the laid off construction workers back to work, buy locally supplied raw materials, and watch those dollars stay here and flow through the economy.

        Or even better, we can go straight to the heart of the problem and put that cash to work keeping American's in their homes. That's what's going to really fix this mess.

        And still send Wall Street the bill. A little accountability never hurt anybody.

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        • #5
          Are these your works or are you just posting info from another source? One was signed Benjamin Shepherd and another by GSEarly???

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          • #6
            Originally posted by texastek76 View Post
            Are these your works or are you just posting info from another source? One was signed Benjamin Shepherd and another by GSEarly???

            Both those and a few others are displayed at their website:

            KCI Investing, unique investment ideas and valuable financial content from top investment analysts.

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            • #7
              The initial post in the thread and the kciinvesting reply are both by me, Ben Shepherd. But the work of several people with KCI Communications is posted under the username.

              Being new to these pages, the system won't let us post links as of yet, but the link above is to our company's website. Check it out if you'd like more information about who we are.

              posted by Benjamin Shepherd

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kciinvesting View Post
                The initial post in the thread and the kciinvesting reply are both by me, Ben Shepherd. But the work of several people with KCI Communications is posted under the username.

                Being new to these pages, the system won't let us post links as of yet, but the link above is to our company's website. Check it out if you'd like more information about who we are.

                posted by Benjamin Shepherd
                Great article!
                Keep posting Ben till youhave 15 posts; then you can post the link. I am working on it too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kciinvesting View Post
                  The initial post in the thread and the kciinvesting reply are both by me, Ben Shepherd. But the work of several people with KCI Communications is posted under the username.

                  Being new to these pages, the system won't let us post links as of yet, but the link above is to our company's website. Check it out if you'd like more information about who we are.
                  If you'd like to post original content/comments here, that's fine. What you've posted has been interesting. But for obvious reasons we can't allow this to be about free advertising for your site. I had to delete one of your other threads because of this. Thanks.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sweeps View Post
                    If you'd like to post original content/comments here, that's fine. What you've posted has been interesting. But for obvious reasons we can't allow this to be about free advertising for your site. I had to delete one of your other threads because of this. Thanks.
                    No problem, we understand completely.

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