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My partner and I save about 25% of our gross income. We max out our 401ks and Roth IRAs each year, and put $400 per month into education funds. In addition, we save about $1000/month into a short term account to pay for car repairs/vacations/medical/house big ticket items, etc. I didn't count that in our savings percentage, but it is a very important part of the overall budget, and a huge psychological comfort to have all that plus the 3 months emergency fund saved. Things feel "tight" when I guess they don't have to be, but I'd rather have that and the savings than just blowing it all on frivolous "stuff". We're late 40s now, goal is to retire at 60 with $2M to get us through the next 30 years or so. Have to pay off the house and HELOC before retirement to make it all come together. Slow and steady with a plan will get us there!
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Originally posted by F16 View PostYou know, that doesn't matter much.
What would you advise on saving?
How to free up more cash for investing?
What are your ideas?
Thanks in advance.
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My wife and I save about 33% of our income. Actually, about 3% is a match to my 401K. That is maxed out and then we save as much as possible after that. I am in sales, so I do get some bonuses and those mostly go to savings. We are in our early 30's and have been saving for a long time. I maxed my 401K out when I started out of college and also began investing outside the 401K as much as possible. I am thankful that we were able to do this because it is affording us the opportunity to now not feel the crunch that a lot of our friends are feeling that are our age.Last edited by Snave; 02-26-2008, 11:05 AM.
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Strategies for Saving Money to Invest
The first strategy is to set up a regular savings program if you do not already have one.
Saving means putting money aside from present earnings to provide for a known or unexpected need in the future.
It is an integral part of family and personal financial planning.
Having a specific goal provides motivation to save. You probably will not get very far saving for the sake of saving.
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Needs versus Wants
Individuals and families save to satisfy their needs and wants.
Needs are items that are necessary for survival such as food, shelter, clothing, and medical care.
Wants are all the other things we think we need, but could do without. If we spend our money to
satisfy wants before we meet our needs, we will probably experience financial difficulties.
The pressure to acquire present wants is often greater than the willingness to provide for future needs or
even future wants.
Generally speaking, four major financial needs require planning for in the near and distant future:
1. Emergencies from the normal course of living such as car repairs or replacing a major appliance.
2. Loss of income as a result of death, divorce, disability, or unemployment.
3. Other family goals such as education for your children or special vacation.
4. Retirement
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A regular savings program is critical to a family's immediate well-being as well as their long-term security.
To adequately fund a savings program and begin an investment program, you must identify a specific amounts to save from each paycheck and honor that commitment.
Regular savings in small amounts is generally more effective than setting
aside larger sums at sporadic intervals.
As your salary increases, increase the amount you commit to savings.
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Pay Yourself First
Another important concept for your savings program is to "pay yourself first".
Make your "savings bill" a part of your spending plan, just like rent or mortgage payments, utility bills, clothing, car payments and upkeep, child care, or any other bill that you normally incur.
When you pay your other bills, pay your savings bill by depositing the money into a savings account or other financial instrument.
One painless way to accomplish this is payroll deduction if it is available.
Your employer deposits your savings directly from your paycheck into a credit union, bank account, or a money market fund for a higher interest rate.
If you never see the money, you won't miss it or be tempted to use it for something else before it reaches your savings account.
Small amounts of money can grow quickly over time.
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Save Bonus Money
Saving "bonus" money is also an easy strategy.
Bonus money is money earned or received that was not expected, such as tax refunds, gift money, overtime pay, rebates, and refunds.
Saving this money over time will boost your saving dollars and provide a larger balance on which to earn interest for the future.
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Save Coupon Money
Another strategy to boost your savings is to save coupon money.
Many people use coupons to reduce their grocery and personal care bills, but few think of actually saving the money they saved!
To make this strategy a reality, put aside the amount you "saved" by using coupons at the grocery store or drugstore. The amount saved is probably printed on each receipt.
Put the "savings" (the money you did not spend) in a special "coupon saving jar".
Every month or so add this cash to your savings account.
Saving just $2 a week for 52 weeks gives you a savings total of $104 which could be your "seed" money to open an investment account.
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Continue Installment Loan Repayments
Most of us have one or more installment loans that we are repaying.
Once you pay off an installment loan (assuming other loans are not overdue), continue to make "payments" to your savings account.
For example, when you pay off your car loan, continue writing a check for the same amount, but make the check payable to your savings account.
You were able to get along without this money for the duration of the car loan, so continue to live at the same level and save the "car payment".
This is a good way to save for the down payment on your next car when the old car needs to be replaced.
It also adds a substantial amount of money to your savings account on a regular basis.
This same strategy can be used when other household expenses end (e.g., childcare).
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Collect Loose Change
Another painless strategy is to collect loose change.
At the end of each day, empty out your pockets and wallet and put the change in a special container.
Every other week or once a month, deposit the change in your savings account. Don't cheat on yourself by "stealing" change that has been collected.
Take it all to the bank. Some people even go so far as to keep all their change. They only pay for cash purchases with bills and save all their coins.
Develop a plan that works for you and stick to it.
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Save Lunch Money
Saving lunch money is another way you and your family can save money.
Get up 10 minutes earlier and make your own lunch.
Save the money you would have spent on lunch.
If all family members do this, the family can realize a nice sum that they can add to their savings. Working together to reach family goal, such as a new TV or a summer vacation, can be an excellent family activity.
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Income 70+k
401k 20%+3.2% match, 14+k per year just from me
Roth fully funded 5k (7% ish)
Employee Stock Purchase Program 8%, roughly 5600 a year
Wife
About the same, salary eligible for 401k is a little less and she doesn't get ESPP.
We are trying to save 3k a month as well.
so
29k for 401k
10k for Roth
5.6k for ESPP
36k for Down payment
= 80.6k savings a year
Housing costs are per month
1k rent
200 util
400 food
100 eating out
500 other
250 insurances
=2450 or 30k per year
Taxes and SS eat up about 25k + 8k =33k
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