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  • #16
    Originally posted by tomhole View Post
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    The bigger problem with this particular example is that it isn't comparing comparable products. The composition of the 2 funds is different even though they are both 2050 funds.

    Vanguard:
    53.7% US stock
    36.2% foreign stock
    7.2% US bond
    2.9% foreign bond

    T. Rowe
    59% US stock
    29% foreign stock
    6.8% US bond
    2.8% foreign bond
    1.8% cash
    0.5% convertibles
    0.3% preferreds

    Those differences, especially an extra 4.3% in US stocks, is more than enough to explain a difference in performance.

    A better comparison would be their S&P 500 Index funds.
    10-year average annual returns:
    Vanguard - 6.82%, ER 0.16%
    T. Rowe - 6.69%; ER 0.27%

    Both are very cheap, but the fact that Vanguard is almost half the ER of T. Rowe probably explains the slightly higher return.
    Last edited by disneysteve; 01-24-2017, 06:34 AM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
      The bigger problem with this particular example is that it isn't comparing comparable products. The composition of the 2 funds is different even though they are both 2050 funds.
      I agree, these aren't a total "apples to apples" comparison in the fact that they're constructed slightly differently. I was just pointing out that cheaper, passive management doesn't always mean it's the "best" all of the time. Had Vanguard mirrored T Rowe's allocation they probably would have done better but they didn't.

      I was also commenting on "dczech09"'s post that T Rowe gets "negative mentions" which I don't feel they deserve if they are in fact getting those mentions.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by kv968 View Post
        I was also commenting on "dczech09"'s post that T Rowe gets "negative mentions" which I don't feel they deserve if they are in fact getting those mentions.
        I agree with you here. I often lump together Vanguard, Fidelity, and T. Rowe when suggesting companies to consider. I think Vanguard is the best of the bunch and low fees are a major reason for that, but any of the 3 is a good choice.
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        • #19
          fidelity/vanguard.

          Mine is through tdameritrade, but that's because historically that's where I had my accounts, and I don't want to switch multiple accounts over. I do buy mostly vanguard efts through this account.

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          • #20
            I'm with everyone on Vanguard and suggest getting a John Bogle book or one by the Bogleheads to help you pick your index funds

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