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  • Tell us about your corporate b.s. / dumb bosses

    This was discussed a bit in another thread off subject, but it got me to thinking that it would be fun to discuss all of the corporate b.s. we are dealing with or have had to deal with in the past.

    As for me, I worked for a hospital chain. My boss was a hot shot Ivy graduate who thought he was God's gift to health care. His boss, the CEO, was about the same.

    Every two weeks, we would have directors meetings where everyone had to sit in rows of chairs for about 90 minutes facing forward. This is while the CEO and his side kicks gave everyone suppose-d motivational talks. The previous CEO generally brought in guests for this, but the new CEO decided he had such charisma (barf) that he could wing it himself. He would patronize people with empty praise, of course bringing the attention back to himself because he was CEO.

    "Frank" the CEO was so full of himself that a former employee had a huge plaque made for him that said "You can't fool Frank". Frank, oblivious to the fact that plaque was in jest and was a direct insult to himself, HAD THE PLAQUE PLACED DIRECTLY BEHIND HIS DESK IN HIS HUGE OFFICE. What a dunce!

    Frank's sidekick, the Ivy Leaguer, was just sure he was the next Jack Welch. He would assign you a book to read and you had to give him a report. He loved using all of the corporate buzzwords like deep dive, drill down, paradigm shift, the definition of insanity (his favorite). He would ask you to "reach out" to so-and-so (why the hell not just call so-and-so, do I have to reach out?).

    All of the CEO's VPs always knew better than to disagree with the CEO. They all sit around his majesty and essentially agree with everything he says. Nodding their heads. I tended to disagree with him a lot and wouldn't hesitate to say so - they would just look at me in horror. One VP asked me about it and I said "Look, all he can do is fire my ass."

    I used to do a lot of high-level sales and negotiation on behalf of the hospital. But if the deal was high enough profile, "Frank" would step in so he could big-shot a little. Usually he would just show all of our cards and royally screw the whole thing up. He was about the worst salesman ever.

    I remember one time we were in a very high level negotiation with an insurer and Frank just had to be involved. He basically ended up cutting a deal that cost us $ millions over that one hour period. One of the insurer's brass spoke up and said "Frank you need to come to work for us!" Of course, they were just patronizing him and in jest telling him what a dumb ass he was, but he was again oblivious - he kind of grinned and puffed his chest out like he was really something special. They'd just cleaned his clock.

    So those are some of my fond memories of corporate life.

  • #2
    Ever hear the expression "if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rennigade View Post
      Ever hear the expression "if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all"
      Yes. I didn't know that was a forum rule though. 😜

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      • #4
        I don't work in a corporate environment, but in a sense we do ultimately work for large corporations - insurance companies and the government - since they are the ones who pay our bills.

        I can tell you endless stories about insurance company insanity that will make you question why anyone in their right mind would ever want to become a doctor and make you fear for your life as a patient.
        Steve

        * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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        • #5
          What is amazing is the vast armies that healthcare and insurance have amassed to do battle with one another.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
            What is amazing is the vast armies that healthcare and insurance have amassed to do battle with one another.
            And the money they spend when doing battle is ridiculous and the only one that suffers is the patients.

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            • #7
              As far as this thread goes, I have had plenty of experience with corporate BS and incompetent bosses. The CEO spams us on a daily basis with his babble. I am often asked "did you read that Smith sent?" My reply EVERY TIME: "NOPE!" Every single email I get from him is moved to a folder without actually being read.

              My current boss barely interacts with us. He set a goal for himself years ago to have monthly meetings and failed miserably. We probably average about two meetings per YEAR. He sits a couple rows over and there are days I never see him because he buries himself under busy work.

              And of course there are examples of being passed over for jobs despite being the most qualified candidate. Both my DH and I have experienced this, often in the name of "diversity." And no, not "sour grapes" situations. Candidates that don't even meet the MINIMUM requirements listed for the job being selected over candidates (not just myself and DH) that were more qualified than the person hired. My favorites are the ones that will complain to HR that they haven't been having any luck finding a better job, and it eventually lands on the desk of a higher up in HR. That is all it takes and amazingly the squeaky (under qualified) wheel gets the grease.

              Well, enough of my soapbox for now.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by StormRichards View Post
                As far as this thread goes, I have had plenty of experience with corporate BS and incompetent bosses. The CEO spams us on a daily basis with his babble. I am often asked "did you read that Smith sent?" My reply EVERY TIME: "NOPE!" Every single email I get from him is moved to a folder without actually being read.

                My current boss barely interacts with us. He set a goal for himself years ago to have monthly meetings and failed miserably. We probably average about two meetings per YEAR. He sits a couple rows over and there are days I never see him because he buries himself under busy work.

                And of course there are examples of being passed over for jobs despite being the most qualified candidate. Both my DH and I have experienced this, often in the name of "diversity." And no, not "sour grapes" situations. Candidates that don't even meet the MINIMUM requirements listed for the job being selected over candidates (not just myself and DH) that were more qualified than the person hired. My favorites are the ones that will complain to HR that they haven't been having any luck finding a better job, and it eventually lands on the desk of a higher up in HR. That is all it takes and amazingly the squeaky (under qualified) wheel gets the grease.

                Well, enough of my soapbox for now.
                The last few years of my corporate life, it seems that more and more emails had a dozen people CC'd or BCC'd. A feud/pissing match would often ensue - one of those copied adding their two cents, then someone wants to one-up that email, and before long you've got a page of unread emails from people who probably never should have been included in the ORIGINAL email.

                Of course, most of this was grand standing, CYA, or both.

                Then at the next meeting, you get the "well in the last email, you said...". Or "that's a little different than what you said in this email from two months ago. Oh wait, that was Larry's comment on your email. But your comment on Larry's comment, that's a little different than what you're saying now."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by StormRichards View Post
                  And the money they spend when doing battle is ridiculous and the only one that suffers is the patients.
                  Trust me. The doctors and their staff suffer too.
                  Steve

                  * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                  * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                  * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
                    The last few years of my corporate life, it seems that more and more emails had a dozen people CC'd or BCC'd. A feud/pissing match would often ensue - one of those copied adding their two cents, then someone wants to one-up that email, and before long you've got a page of unread emails from people who probably never should have been included in the ORIGINAL email.

                    Of course, most of this was grand standing, CYA, or both.

                    Then at the next meeting, you get the "well in the last email, you said...". Or "that's a little different than what you said in this email from two months ago. Oh wait, that was Larry's comment on your email. But your comment on Larry's comment, that's a little different than what you're saying now."
                    We will get a reply all message from someone saying "please take me off this list" (not related to the CEO e-mails of course), and that will result in a bunch of morons replying all telling people not to reply all. That typically results in an official reminder of when and when not to use reply all.

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                    • #11
                      Actually I have one...years ago I worked helpdesk...only took calls all day. I called in sick one day and got in trouble for it. THere was no official policy of calling in sick. I actually asked for the policy and the manager checked with HR. The policy was the manager could make their own policy on sick which didnt make sense. Manager stated we had to give advance notice. I asked how that was possible to know in advance of when someone was going to be sick. Didnt go over well...I kept arguing about its impossible to predict when someone would be sick, etc etc.

                      A couple weeks later I was put on a PIP (performance improvement plan.) I didnt realize it at the time but once you're put on this "plan" its usually a matter of time before they fire you. Its a cushion for the employer in case of lawsuit. Sure enough a month after the PIP I was fired.

                      And just fyi...anyone who works a helpdesk environment...I salute you. It was the most miserable job ive ever had. Call after call, non stop all day.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rennigade View Post
                        Manager stated we had to give advance notice. I asked how that was possible to know in advance of when someone was going to be sick.
                        I've had many patients over the years who work at places where absences of less than 3 days count against them but absences of 3 days or more with a doctor's note are excused.

                        So if someone is sick enough to not go to work one day but not sick enough to require medical attention, they're out of luck. The end result is a lot of patients coming in for minor stuff that wastes my time and theirs and requesting notes for 3 days off work even though it isn't medically necessary. I have no idea what the though is behind policies like that - or ones requiring advance notice of illness.
                        Steve

                        * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                          I have no idea what the though is behind policies like that - or ones requiring advance notice of illness.
                          For the helpdesk there wasnt a lot of us. So some times only 1 person was answering the phones. If they called in sick no one would be answering. But I gave notice to 2 team leads and my manager the time I called in. It just inconvenienced them where they had to answer the phone until someone else jumped on. It was still really rotten and a toxic policy if you ask me.

                          I know my one cousin works at a factory where if you call in sick you get a point or two. Once you get to 10 points you're fired. What a terrible place to work.

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                          • #14
                            I Didn't know the corporate game when I started working for my first large company, I worked my tail off and got to a supervisor position in 4 months. I continued to work my tail off and showed nothing but results to see all the newbie brown nosers getting promoted and passing me by with their far inferior statistics. After a couple years of it I hit the road, I never was able to brown nose it up
                            retired in 2009 at the age of 39 with less than 300K total net worth

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rennigade View Post

                              A couple weeks later I was put on a PIP (performance improvement plan.) I didnt realize it at the time but once you're put on this "plan" its usually a matter of time before they fire you. Its a cushion for the employer in case of lawsuit. Sure enough a month after the PIP I was fired.
                              I have been on both ends of these type of plans. At my company it is referred to as "Corrective Action." Yes, some managers try to use it as a way to get rid of an employee, but a company needs justification to further someone along to the point of termination.

                              Managers at my company can't get rid of anyone without someone in HR examining the documentation and giving the go ahead. Don't even bother calling them if you don't have the documentation in place. Even a serious issue like assaulting someone, which is of course grounds for termination, requires documentation.

                              If the employee is someone in a protected class, your documentation better have the i's dotted and the t's crossed.

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