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  • #46
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    And I reiterate (not that you listen ) that no one here uses public transport unless they live in a city. More expensive petrol hasn't cut down on usage, just as more expensive cigarettes hasn't led to a lower smoking rate here.

    As for the poverty rates, according to the CIA world fact book the respective rates are 17% for Britain and 12% for America (as of 2004).

    It's probably best to agree to disagree VJW as you and I could go around and around without ever agreeing on anything.

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    • #47
      Re: Gas

      Originally posted by VJW
      If the Democrats are “anti business”, why did American business, not to mention the stock markets, perform so much better during the previous eight years compared to the recent five years ?
      Considering that you've discussed on other threads how the stock market is such a horrible return on investment can we move to another example please?

      Originally posted by VJW
      Just how are the vast majority of "average people" supposed to invest their way to great fortune, when the stock market returned less than ONE PERCENT for the majority of the 20th Century and a NEGATIVE return (so far) in the 21st Century ?

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      • #48
        Re: Gas

        Are the gas prices why Bruce is snarling?

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        • #49
          Re: Gas

          Originally posted by nixuzer
          Considering that you've discussed on other threads how the stock market is such a horrible return on investment can we move to another example please?
          But it was the Republicans who claimed the stock market would skyrocket under their policies, not I.

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          • #50
            Re: Gas

            Originally posted by Bruce Wayne
            And I reiterate (not that you listen ) that no one here uses public transport unless they live in a city.
            DUH ?

            I wasn't referencing the countryside.



            More expensive petrol hasn't cut down on usage
            Because Britain already has a long history of having mass transit. I wasn’t contending it was causing people to shift now, but that your mass transit infrastructure is partially offset by your fuel taxes.



            just as more expensive cigarettes hasn't led to a lower smoking rate here.
            That’s unusual, as it has most everywhere else. There has been a significant decline in America with the increase in taxation.



            As for the poverty rates, according to the CIA world fact book the respective rates are 17% for Britain and 12% for America (as of 2004).
            Those are the numbers that each respective country reports, but they arrive at those numbers utilizing a completely different parameter. You need to apply a universal parameter of what is the "poverty level" when making comparisons across countries. The numbers I posted were arrived at by using the universal standard of those earning less than half of the national median. They are also a few years old, which means the disparity is even worse, as Poverty has risen in America each of the last five calendar years.



            It's probably best to agree to disagree VJW as you and I could go around and around without ever agreeing on anything.
            That says much more about you than it does about me, as I’m not seeking anyone’s agreement, but rather that they merely consider the presented facts.


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            • #51
              Re: Gas

              Originally posted by VJW
              But it was the Republicans who claimed the stock market would skyrocket under their policies, not I.

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              Ok, although OT did you see the Stephen Colbert bit at the Whitehouse Correspondents Dinner.

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              • #52
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                I sure did. I thought the reaction was priceless.

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