Save significant money on fuel costs

**greenskeeper** · 12-04-2011, 05:02 AM

I heard about this. The main ingredient is the extract of the snake....also known as snake oil.

The best ways to save fuel are:

1) buy a more fuel efficient vehicle (if possible)

2) use your brakes as little as possible. (anticipate stops, etc)

3) slow down

4) get in and go (no wasting idle, your car gets 0 mpgs doing this)

5) don't carry hundreds of lbs of crap in your trunk.

**seen** · 12-04-2011, 05:30 AM

I am sorry. I realize that you're just trying to do your job and that you have bills to pay like everyone else, but the first thing I noticed about this product after watching the YouTube video is that it lowers the combustion point of your gas. MPG aside, this is potentially engine destructive as it can cause engine knocking.

The main reason Premium gas cars require premium gas is for the increase in octane (ie. to RAISE the combustion temperature of the gas) so that the fuel in the piston will not pre-ignite. You might be able to get away with regular fuel if you don't redline your engine often, but every car is different, and as such the manufacturers require its owners to use a certain type of gas, oil, coolant, etc. There is a science to these assignments, yet this XFT product makes a blanket statement that claims to improve performance/efficiency of all vehicles across the board.

Before anyone here decides to use this product, please see the following link:
Xtreme Fuel Treatment

Some very good points are brought up in what's apparently been a tired argument.

**Team Syntek** · 12-04-2011, 07:06 AM

Seen, that was an honest and understandable response. And no....there is no snake oil in the ingredients panel!

I cannot answer the EPA registration vs EPS testing question....I would actually like to see that myself because I'm confident the product would pass with flying colors. There are over 3 billion miles and over 70 billion hours worth of data compiled and logged from companies like Caterpillar and other construction/mining companies. That's nothing to shy away from....and the product was added to the Magnuson act of 1975 (a bill that passed legislation) that states certain aftermarket products such as fuel additives CANNOT void a manufacturer's warranty if they pass the rigorous screening. This product poses ZERO harm to an engine if dosed properly.

As far as the engine knocking, sounds like a bit of fuzzy science myth. Syntek Global, the company responsible for manufacturing the product, has not had a SINGLE insurance claim in over 20 years and they have a massive liability policy. Again, this is all documented and made available in PDF form to distributors.

Guys.....the product secured patents that were developed by 2 Nobel prize winning scientists who won great recognition from NASA. Again, nothign to shy away from. Anything else I can answer? My '08 Dodge Nitro personally went from 16.3 to 19mpg in 6 weeks and has remained at that level. My truck starts up immediately and runs cleaner (idles smooth and slight throttle sensitivity from the horsepower increase). XFT more than pays for itself!

**disneysteve** · 12-04-2011, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Team Syntek View Post

Hey guys, I am new to the SavingAdvice forum. I am NOT spam, this is NOT a scheme or a MLM....I am a real human promoting a product

If you are coming to a discussion forum mainly to promote a product, I'd say that is spam by definition. So don't bother.

**Team Syntek** · 12-04-2011, 09:45 AM

Hey Steve, I found this forum looking around a Google search for "Saving Money tips". I think my being is here is quite appropriate since the product I am promoting is GUARANTEED to save people money on fuel costs. Some folks try to question the compatibility/quality/longevity of the product which is totally understandable....I am here to answer questions and show folks that there are hundreds of testimonials of families and businesses of all kinds who have saved a ton each year by using it.

Its not a scheme, its a tried and true way to save money on gasoline!

Thanks

**jpg7n16** · 12-04-2011, 12:04 PM

Not Spam: "Consider fuel additives to lower your gas costs. They have been shown to save the average 2 car family $700/year. Here's a link to the study: {insert link here}"

Spam: "Consider Acme Co's special additive Xtreme Mileage to lower your gas costs. Our company guarantees the average 2-car family will save $700/year. Here's a link to our website where you can buy it: {insert link here} Buy it today!!"

Recommending a product type is very different than recommending a product.

For instance, if I replied "as an alternative, you could consider biking to locations less than 5 miles away. This would save significant fuel costs, and even benefit your health."

That would be much different than "my company sells the new Schwinn road bike. This bike is perfect for short raod trips and can save you significant fuel costs - while improving your health. Make those 5-mile trips greener today: {link}"

See the difference?

**Team Syntek** · 12-04-2011, 01:29 PM

Sound advice JPG - I do appreciate the suggestions and I absolutely see the difference. As a distributor, Ive been looking in unique online places to promote and spread the word. The last thing I want, however, is to come across like an ACME brand stick of dynamite who's pushing it on people!

Allow me to revise my post strategy and just open up the thread for any questions/suggestions/feedback on advice for saving money on fuel costs. Of course, I would strongly urge everyone to use this product but I am new here and dont aim to burn any bridges turn people off. I am glad that I was able to address a few questions already and will be here to answer any more.

Thanks guys,
Gregg

**SeanH** · 12-04-2011, 03:20 PM

Slick 50 and other engine oil additives - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

Skepdic.com sums these sort of products up nicely.

appeal to authority - logical fallacies - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

See also the fallacy known as appeal to authority. Nobel prizes. NASA. Trust me.

**Team Syntek** · 12-04-2011, 05:24 PM

These products?

XFT has NEVER been done before...ever. It pulls 6 different important agents into one formula. This ingredient panel is 100% unique and WAS based around a technology created and developed by 2 Nobel prize winning scientists, who sold the organo-metallic compound technology to NASA. Look them up, Ernst Otto Fischer and Geoffrey Wilkinson.

Anything else folks? I'm telling you...every single one of your questions has already been thought of, researched, and documented with supportive data.

**Team Syntek** · 12-04-2011, 05:31 PM

lol some of you hardcore skeptics out there really need to come out of your shells and not be afraid of your own shadow! You are looking at a win-in product that has ZERO faults.....just savings to offer.

**Mr Nice Guy** · 12-04-2011, 07:36 PM

You picked a horrible market to spam to. Way to get acquainted with the community before you start talking shop. I hope you don't do this at dinner parties.

The forum is called SAVING advice lol. It kind of implies we are a little bit more conscious of our finances than other forums.

**jeffrey** · 12-04-2011, 08:34 PM

I was ready to delete this as spam, but am enjoying the beating he's taking...what to do...Team Syntek -- there is no promotion of products in this forum with which you are affiliated as per forum rules. Feel free to discuss anything else here, but no promoting your product.

**bjl584** · 12-05-2011, 03:34 AM

A fuel additive basically mixes any water or impurities that may be in your gas. It works the way the catalist does in salad dressing. (the ingredient that mixes the oil and water so that you don't have to shake it before each use.) That way everything can go through your injectors and be burned more cleanly and completely.

I've never heard of XTF, but I expect that it is no different than any other additive out there. There are countless additives out there that you can buy at any auto parts store for cheaper, and chemically they are no different. Talk to your trusted mechanic about what he recommends.

Caution using additives on a newer vehicle as it may void your waranty.

The best ways to save on gas are to drive slower and less aggressively.

**disneysteve** · 12-05-2011, 04:05 AM

Originally posted by jeffrey View Post

I was ready to delete this as spam, but am enjoying the beating he's taking...what to do...Team Syntek -- there is no promotion of products in this forum with which you are affiliated as per forum rules. Feel free to discuss anything else here, but no promoting your product.

Thanks for weighing in Jeffrey. That was my thought exactly. It is very clearly spam, but watching everyone pile on the spammer is entertaining. Hopefully, he'll just go away. If not, I'll be happy to delete his posts and ban him.

Save significant money on fuel costs