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    artist ploy.

    An expensive lesson learned and the best that I can do is just alert others.

    First one: The new "Chipin" funds technique for helping people, environment, animals (in my situation - that is where my donation dollars usually go).

    These chipins are usually set up by a private individual. And you would think that the money going to an individual would go to the work it is supposed to be doing. No, it appears it did not and I was actually approached privately by this person who has all this info on me for a private donation - no more donations were made and and have contacted my bank.

    This was not a 501(c)3 registered charity.

    I saw one post (on another forum) where someone refused to donate money to a person (as in this popular new chipin technique) instead of a 501 registered charity.

    ALSO:

    Watch out for the door knockers. In our city if you have a No Solicitation sign posted it is illegal to do this unless registered first with the police dept. and they must show a valid piece of paper. The police department encourages us to call to report anyone even to make sure their license to solicit is registered.

    One hot day a really exhausted sweaty distressed woman approached the door. My husband answered - and by golly it was a woman whose car had just run out of gas on our street. She worked for the family just behind our street and the elderly lady had to have an ambulance called (naturally we were asking about her and this immediately threw us off to be suspicious).

    In the confusion she had gotten her purse locked in the house which had her money. And her car had been on empty. She could not get home.

    She also muttered about coming in the house to get in the shade. At that point I just told her wait outside and we will try to figure out how to help. Went in and we decided Hubby would follow her up to nearest gas station and fill her car up with enough gas to get home.

    When he gets home he tells me he put in $20.00 worth (her home was in a very distant suburb)but she wanted some cash and he gave it to her - $20.00.

    That immediately tipped me off - and there wasn't, after all, any woman who worked for the elderly lady on the other street.

    We had been conned.

    We have always ignored the 'will work for food' people who have disappeared from intersections after some investigative reporters did publicity on how much money these people make.

    Now they are coming right to the door in these hard times.

    Is there a 'no begging' sign or 'don't ask for money sign' - someone might get rich off of that.

    We want to help people but this woman was good - it was so quick, desperate and bold that we thought was completely a credible story.

    Also at a mall we were approached by a woman claiming to be living out of her car and also out of gas. Security usually runs these people out. New cons where you least expect it.

    And even a registered 501(c) charity could be spending money where you don't agree it should be. A huge respectable animal charity employs 30 attorneys - according to some watchdog group. Bit much there.

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    The organization that I contributed lots of money to help animals posted the announcement that the person in charge of finances had embezzled the money.

    No more contributions to any charity or person conning a distress.

    Being contibuters was a financial goal that we were enjoying but now no longer.

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    • #3
      I'm sorry to hear about what happened. For responsible charities, you can do an online search, and there are credible agencies whose job it is to monitor the legitimacy of those charities.

      A way to help people like the woman who knocked on your door (assuming she was legitimate) is to offer to make a phone call for them. However, you do the calling and do not give them the phone.

      If you or I were in trouble, we'd welcome someone making a call for us. A con artist would try to ask for "other" help.

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      • #4
        Sorry to hear that you had such bad experiences. Thanks for warning us though.

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        • #5
          Lesson learned indeed.

          Thanks indeed for the warning. Sorry about your experience for sure. I, for one, don't give to any charity except for a limited few major well known ones and even then, only direct online.

          I am a truck driver and it is so common to have people begging for money coming to your truck at truck stops. The usual routine is "I don't normally do this and I've run out of gas".

          Another example of common ripoffs are people who pretend to be homeless on the street begging for money. I live just north of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Back in the 90s there was a major story which hit the media about a well known "homeless" woman easily spotted in the same location near downtown Toronto. Local residents and workers usually saw and recognized her. A reporter was able to expose that not only was she not homeless, but she in fact lived in one of the richest parts of the city. Her defense is that this is a free country and she was making her income in a way which was not illegal. That was the last day I gave money to someone claiming to be homeless or needing money. I seriously wonder if the government charged her for tax evasion. Not likely but she should have had her house seized for the taxes she illegally owed because it is unlikely she claimed her income on taxes as "begging for money".

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          • #6
            I have had some experiences like what you described in the mall. I would personally donate to a registered, approved religious organization or 501c3. However, sometimes individuals do need help. It's hard to know where to draw the line. I still think it is safer to contribute to nationally known charities.

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            • #7
              This gives rise to another potential fraud -- recovery of Hurricane Irene.

              After Hurricane Katrina, hundreds of scam artists collected money that went directly into their own pockets.

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              • #8
                Responsible Giving

                I follow a standard rule with charities: I only give to a small handful that I've researched, read up on, and have been around for a long time. BTW this does not mean I give to any of the best-known U.S.-based charities whose names you are currently thinking of as some of them have extravagantly paid CEOs which is a turn-off for me. I donate to charities that are on the scene for domestic U.S. as well as international disasters, every time. This eliminates all guilt (the driving force behind many donations to illicit charities); not that anyone should use this as a motivator for giving anyway. Bottom line: if you haven't heard of the charity before, skip it and find one you trust instead.

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