I was reading the "what did you do to de-cluttered today?" thread and was wondering what decluttering had to do with finance. Do you think that having an uncluttered house is essential to having good finances? Are these directly related? I'm curious if anyone has stories about how decluttering has helped their finances and if they feel it is important to do a little decluttering every single day to make sure their finances stay in order?
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What does decluttering have to do with finance?
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I'll weigh in since I'm the one who started the original decluttering thread (that one accidentally got deleted - the current one is part two).
I think people who stay organized tend to stay organized in all areas of their lives. People who are sloppy tend to be sloppy in all areas. So yes, I think getting rid of clutter and keeping things neat and orderly can help you manage your finances. If you desk is a mess, you are more likely to lose a bill or pay it late. You are more likely to misplace a check or even cash. While cleaning in our house, we have found gift cards that were still valid but had long ago been forgotten. We either used them or sold them on ebay and realized their value. There have been numerous other times when cleaning and decluttering had a direct effect on our finances. Finding things to sell on ebay and finding money and other items that we had lost are examples.Steve
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So you feel that if I can get my living space clean and in order, that should help me get my finances in order as well? They still seem to be two different issues to me, but since I am willing to do anything to help myself get out of the debt that I currently have, I'm more than willing to give it a try if people think that it will help. Are there other areas of my life that I'm going to have to change as well?
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Originally posted by cheapwine View PostSo you feel that if I can get my living space clean and in order, that should help me get my finances in order as well?
Do you ever just feel drained? Clutter is tiring to look at. It saps motivation. A clean space is more mentally uplifting. I know that may sound like pyscho-babble but it really isn't. I enjoy sitting down at my clean desk, spreading out financial statements and taking care of things. At other times, when the desk is piled high with papers and assorted stuff, I find myself avoiding the desk and putting off those tasks.Steve
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* Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
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I would agree with there being a link between material clutter and financial organization, at least for me there is. The way I look at it, staying de-cluttered and having a minimum of possessions means being aware of what you own, and what you may need. It helps you keep track of what you might or might not need to buy.
Its also very common for many frugal people to also have a minimum of material items. Having a ton of crap around that one doesn't make much use of (i.e. "clutter") can be a sign of undisciplined financial management, impulse buying tendencies, the "need" to have the newest gadget, etc., all things that can undermine being in control of one's finances.
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Ever go buy something (again) that you already had but couldn't find??
Wasted money.
Ever clean off your spouses desk and find rebate or refund checks that are now out of date and can no longer be cashed???
Wasted money.
Ever have food or medications get buried in the rubble and go out of date and be expired before you find them???
Wasted money.
Ever clean out the car, purse, coat pockets, chair or sofa cushions and find money that could have been working for you instead of hiding in the junk??
Wasted money.
Ever loose a valuable item due to clutter? Such as jewelry or a birthday card containing cash?
Wasted money.
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I'm kicking myself because I lost three tools I needed for pruning my gardens. I also have a little bit of memory problem which is a bad thing to combine with a tendency to let things become cluttered. My spouse and I looked and looked for those tools. I wondered if I had last lent them to my friend who moved out of country suddenly. I definitely had lent them to her several times before, but she had been good about returning them the next day. But maybe in the sudden need to leave she had forgotten that she had them.
So, I bought all three tools new. Did most of my spring pruning, then went to get another pair of gloves. What?!!! There were the pruning tools all in the plastic grocery bag with my spare gloves! Money wasted. Phoo!"There is some ontological doubt as to whether it may even be possible in principle to nail down these things in the universe we're given to study." --text msg from my kid
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Clutter also wastes time and, as the old saying goes, time is money. If you spend an hour searching your house for some missing item, that's an hour that you didn't spend doing something more useful or profitable.Steve
* Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
* Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
* There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.
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Realized I had a caution about decluttering. Try not to get into the frame of mind that buying more STUFF is the answer to clutter problems. I have read an internet forum on home organization where there is an emphasis on buying shelving, cabinets, pegboard & hooks, baskets, boxes, vacuum sealed bags, wall hung racks, door hung racks, walk-in closets in the basement, kitchen drawer trays, file systems, institutional daycare type lockers & cubbies for the kids' rooms, nice looking storage for entertainment media, rolling underbed storage, captains beds with built in drawers, living room ottomans with internal storage, desk organizers, day-timers, corkboards, color coded Rubbermaid bins, specialized Christmas ornament boxes, shoetrees, make-up trays, shower caddies, drawer dividers, bins, shirt folders, sock-pairers, wire shelving for the laundry room, toy carts for the toddlers, hampers for every bathroom, bedroom, and kitchen, portable hose reels, hide-away beds for the craft room, pretty baskets in which to hide un-pretty necessities, overhead potracks, magnetic hooks for the fridge, clip-on hooks for the stove, wall pockets in the bathroom......on and on.
No doubt all those organizing tools have their usefulness. But buying the organizing stuff is not the same as using the organizing stuff. Plus, some would be tempted to fill those organizers and keep on buying more things that do not even fit into the storage, so, more storage is bought.
Just don't let decluttering morph into a new shopping-to-organize hobby if you need to get a hold on your finances."There is some ontological doubt as to whether it may even be possible in principle to nail down these things in the universe we're given to study." --text msg from my kid
"It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men." --Frederick Douglass
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Originally posted by cheapwine View PostAny suggestions on the best place to start when you begin to declutter? I took a look at my whole house it all looks overwhelming...
Where to start? Have you ever heard the old joke: How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. Clutter is the same way. Don't look at the big picture. Pick one area to work on at a time. I'd suggest you pick something out in the open like a bookcase, shelf or counter. That way, your progress is clearly visible and that helps motivate you to keep at it. If you start with a drawer or closet that is out of view, the progress isn't so apparent.
Another thing to do from the beginning is to really focus on not allowing any new clutter to develop while you are working to get rid of the clutter you already have. Go through the mail when you get it. Recycle what you don't need immediately. Put away the clean laundry right away. Don't put something down and say you'll put it away later - put it away then and there.
And start posting updates to the decluttering thread.
My original goal when I started the first thread was to take care of at least one item per day. I've done way more than that but there is always lots more to do.Steve
* Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
* Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
* There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.
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Decluttering also helps because you keep asking, 'what is in my house that I don't really need?'
Then you start asking yourself at the store - 'do I really need this?'
That can significantly cut back on excessive spending.
Also, if you sell the stuff from your house while decluttering, that directly affects your finances.
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And, if you're as cluttered as one family was on Clean House: Messiest Home in America, you could find $5,000 in change lying around your house!
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I think mom-from-missouri spells it out pretty well.
I am pretty uber organized, but on the flip side I am a bit of a slob. So not too sure on that area. I think the truth is I focus on the things that matter and don't really care so much about how nice my living space looks (have better things to do with my time than keep my spaces immaculate). Kind of our own philosophy (my spouse and mine). Our dishes are clean, our laundry is clean, our bills are paid, and who cares about anything else?
That said, we don't buy a lot of stuff. I kind of equate a huge pile of stuff to buying stuff you don't need and not being able to find the stuff that you have.
Likewise, we regularly sell things when we are done with them, which is a huge help financially. We could leave old/used items sitting around and taking up space, or we can be efficient and sell things when we are done. We do tend to be pretty efficient with managing our stuff, even if not "perfect."
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