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  • #16
    [QUOTE=Broken Arrow;240811]Please try not to laugh, but I've actually found the sleep mode to be reliable on Vista and now Windows 7. Yes, Vista, despite all the bloat and ridicule, the sleep mode has been completely reliable for me. Not so for anything before that, including XP (in my experience).
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    Ahhh. Vista would be the one windows system I never owned, used or fixed. I stayed with XP (and I would actually go so far as to say XP's sleep/hibernate was the worst of the worst). Though I will say that SSD insures I start faster than sleep mode ever did So not much of an issue now.

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    • #17
      I've never known Sleep or Hibernate to reliably work on any machine, or OS. I don't use it ever.

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      • #18
        I can personally testify that Vista, 7, and Mac OS X's sleep mode works almost flawlessly. If you have any of these, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try. If it still doesn't work for you, well then, you still haven't lost anything I hope.

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        • #19
          I have been using 7 beta for 4 months...will get the full version in the mail soon. I love it!

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          • #20
            i also use windows 7. this is what vista should have been. i have never used a mac but i hope to buy one in the future(a top of the range macbook pro). Not that i need one, i just want it

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Broken Arrow View Post
              I can personally testify that Vista, 7, and Mac OS X's sleep mode works almost flawlessly. If you have any of these, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try. If it still doesn't work for you, well then, you still haven't lost anything I hope.
              Almost works flawlessly? lol x 1000!

              Almost does not cut it.

              Either it works or it doesn't, and with all the OS's you listed, it does not work.

              Imagine buing a car and the saleman tells you "this thing drives almost flawlessly"...nobody would buy the car.

              But to be fair, it's not all the fault of the OS creators....the software makers are at fault too, for not following the programming rules, etc.

              And at the end of the day, it really is not reliable. I'm an IT pro and I would never use Sleep, Hibernate, because of the lack of reliability I've seen, and in fact many large corporations disable those features.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by lovcom View Post
                And at the end of the day, it really is not reliable. I'm an IT pro and I would never use Sleep, Hibernate, because of the lack of reliability I've seen, and in fact many large corporations disable those features.
                I'm not much of a techie, so what exactly do you mean by "not reliable"? I use hibernate (both Vista and XP) every night, and sometimes multiple times during the day. I've never had any problems with it, regardless of what programs I have running, or how I'm using the computer.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by lovcom View Post
                  Almost does not cut it.

                  Either it works or it doesn't, and with all the OS's you listed, it does not work.
                  Perhaps there is a semantic misunderstanding.

                  When I say "almost", I am speaking in terms of success rate. Let's say, after 100 tries, 95 of them will sleep or hibernate successfully. Hence the term "almost".

                  Therefore, I am not implying some kind of design or implementation error, which would lead to "either it works or it doesn't".

                  As an "IT pro", you should be well-aware of such a phenomenon.

                  Imagine buing a car and the saleman tells you "this thing drives almost flawlessly"...nobody would buy the car.
                  Hyperbole. I'm not a salesman. I'm only stating what I know.

                  And at the end of the day, it really is not reliable. I'm an IT pro and I would never use Sleep, Hibernate, because of the lack of reliability I've seen, and in fact many large corporations disable those features.
                  This is true, although as an "IT pro", you should also know that corporate standards are very different from personal standards. It's one thing to sleep/hibernate/shut down your own computer. It's quite another when you are tasked with an entire site, or even several sites, that involves commuting, all the while juggling all the other tickets that you have in your queue.

                  What I speak of here is from one personal user to another. What I am not speaking of is a recommendation for corporation standards. But since we're here, please also consider that different corporations have different standards. For example, where I work here, these features are not disabled. Most employees here don't even think of doing anything else with their computers. They just leave it on all day and even when they go home. Great waste of electricity, but that's the way it goes in large corporations.
                  Last edited by Broken Arrow; 11-10-2009, 09:01 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Update:

                    Upgraded my Quad Core gaming rig from Vista to Windows 7. Also upgraded an EEE Top touchscreen with the atom processor I use in my kitchen from XP to Windows 7. Both upgrades went without a hitch.

                    Most surprising is how well the EEE Top works now. I was going to replace that computer because of the sluggish performance, but decided to upgrade to see if it would work better. MUCH improved. Will keep it in service for now.

                    So far, I'm a fan.

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                    • #25
                      Windows 7 is same old windows with new visualization layer copied from Mac OS X.. I am not a apple fanboy, but I have been using MacBook Pro aluminium for a while, and boy, I could not be happier.. It is open to discussion whether such a price tag justifies a mac system, but in terms of user experience I think it is the best product in the market..

                      You will realize after 6 months your registry system over-bloats slowing down your machine and boot time, in addition to virus attacks, hard drive failure due to overheating etc.. Not that macs don't crash, but it is pretty much an isolated, infrequent incident as compared to a pattern with windows after an year or so..

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                      • #26
                        Although I've been a lover of Macs for many years, I'm not blind to the benefits of a Windows system. My XP and Vista boxes have been fairly reliable and I've been fairly virus free in all these years.

                        My macs have been fairly reliable too. But I've had issues with them too. And admittedly, when they have failed, it's been very costly.

                        Right now I have 3 windows machines and 3 macs. I have windows laptop for work - really no way around that - a touchscreen in the kitchen running a web browser only and a gaming rig for my nephews. I have an Imac in my home office serving itunes to appleTVs, a macbook pro that is now a home theater computer and a macbook that is sitting in a box because I'm sick of dealing with it's "issues".

                        The windows laptop was $599, the touchscreen also $599, the game rig was $1,000. The imac was $1800, the macbook pro was $2800 and the macbook was $1600. So the laptop in on an annual replacement, the touchscreen probably when it dies, and the gaming rig is probably every other year. My imac and macbook pro are past their prime, but I'm still getting use out of them and can depend on them. The macbook was a disappointment and I feel I got screwed on that one. I'm kinda on the path of the windows boxes being disposable, and the apples as more long term workhorses.
                        Last edited by wincrasher; 11-16-2009, 09:10 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by wincrasher View Post
                          Although I've been a lover of Macs for many years, I'm not blind to the benefits of a Windows system. My XP and Vista boxes have been fairly reliable and I've been fairly virus free in all these years.

                          My macs have been fairly reliable too. But I've had issues with them too. And admittedly, when they have failed, it's been very costly.

                          Right now I have 3 windows machines and 3 macs. I have windows laptop for work - really no way around that - a touchscreen in the kitchen running a web browser only and a gaming rig for my nephews. I have an Imac in my home office serving itunes to appleTVs, a macbook pro that is now a home theater computer and a macbook that is sitting in a box because I'm sick of dealing with it's "issues".

                          The windows laptop was $599, the touchscreen also $599, the game rig was $1,000. The imac was $1800, the macbook pro was $2800 and the macbook was $1600. So the laptop in on an annual replacement, the touchscreen probably when it dies, and the gaming rig is probably every other year. My imac and macbook pro are past their prime, but I'm still getting use out of them and can depend on them. The macbook was a disappointment and I feel I got screwed on that one. I'm kinda on the path of the windows boxes being disposable, and the apples as more long term workhorses.
                          You have too many computers and have burned through a lot of money coveting them. You can't justify so many, even if you might try. I'm an IT guy so I know. ;-) Sale nearly all of them and put the proceeds in an investment or add to your emergency fund. And to add insult to injury, you replace them way too frequently. Shameful ;-) Otherwise next thing we're going to hear is that you're adding a laptop to the bathroom, garage, and attic...self restraint, man!

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