What is wrong with some people? !!

[Goldy1]

My mom calls me on her lunch break and tells me about a family that lives down the street. She lives in a neat well kept tree lined working class suburb with a good little school district.

Family down the street got "kicked out" of thier home for not paying the mortgage. They lived there 19 months "free".
They admitted to not working jobs, taking THREE YES I SAID THREE home equity lines of credit at 35, 30 and 20 K.(homes barely value over 100K there)
They destroyed the house on the way out including taking cuppords off walls and admitted to having the kids "write all over the walls in every room" including in large letters "where is my bail out?" in the living room. (nice example to kids huh?) They probably get free health insurance from the government and what not as well to boot I would presume.

Ok I am done, I had to write this to vent before I went to school today! argh. ok I am done. This entitlement is the doom of society.

[Adirondak]

Yes, it seems like people have forgotten about personal responsibility. That family's actions are atrocious.

It's easy to see both sides, however. Corporations neglect their responsibilities, get bailed out and use the money for bonuses and expensive perks. Why wouldn't some people expect the same thing?

The answer is for everyone to take personal responsibility and to become the change they'd like to see in the world personally. As a whole, America is sinking to new lows in selfishness and greed. We are all paying for it though.

[shultice24]

"The answer is for everyone to take personal responsibility and to become the change they'd like to see in the world personally."

Couldn't agree more; this reminds me of one of my favorite quotes of all time, by Mr. Edison- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astound ourselves."

Unfortunately I don't see us moving towards that ideal. Personal accountability is dead; entitlement is king.

[cschin4]

You are going to see more and more of this as our govt destroys the incentive to work and be responsible by punishing those who do.

[mdcrim]

We're moving to a socialist government. Pretty soon no one will need to work for anything.

[gamecock43]

I think there have always been dead beats. I'm pretty sure there is not a higher percentage of dead beats today than there were 20 years ago. But we always remember the past differently than it was, just as our current perception of the world is different than it actually is.

[disneysteve]

I think there have always been dead beats. I'm pretty sure there is not a higher percentage of dead beats today than there were 20 years ago. But we always remember the past differently than it was, just as our current perception of the world is different than it actually is.

I think the difference is that the availability of easy credit in recent years allowed people to become deadbeats on a much larger scale than in the past. Years ago, you couldn't buy a house for 6 times your income with little to nothing down because no bank in their right mind would make that loan. Over the past few years, that nonsense happened constantly and we are now seeing the fallout of greed and inadequate government regulation.

[gamecock43]

I am assuming (and I know assuming is not very accurate) that we perceive the irresponsible actions of people today to be higher than in the past, because of that good ol "in the old days" myth. I have read studies that people always believe that current Whatever is causing them concern is worse than it was "when they were growing up." Kids today behave worse than the grandparents generation. Crime is worse because grandparents used to be able to leave their doors unlocked. People were brighter before technology came in and dumbed everybody down. But research that appropriately weighs all existing factors shows that there has been no increase in whatever phenomena everyone is concerned about. People just think somethings on the rise because they are hyper aware of it when they were not before. Perception is all.

That would be an interesting research project. Not sure how it would be done but I'm sure somebody is already working on it.

[Inkstain82]

Where is their bailout?

Well, they got publicly funded educations, they drove to work (if they ever did any) on publicly funded roads. They were very likely born in a hospital that had at least some public funding, from doctors who received public aid to get their training. They kept their money in banks that they didn't have to bother researching or worrying about, because they are publicly regulated.

I could go on for pages, but the sum answer is this: nobody gets nothing from the government.

[maat55]

Where is their bailout?

Well, they got publicly funded educations, they drove to work (if they ever did any) on publicly funded roads. They were very likely born in a hospital that had at least some public funding, from doctors who received public aid to get their training. They kept their money in banks that they didn't have to bother researching or worrying about, because they are publicly regulated.

I could go on for pages, but the sum answer is this: nobody gets nothing from the government.

Somebody is getting something, the national debt is 11 trillion and rising. I'm guessing around 5% has been used wisely. The government will always pander for votes, the people will have to refuse the bailouts to get them to stop them.

Anyone out there willing to turn down the 8k first time home money?

Anyone out there willing to refuse food stamps, EITC, SS and Medicare before 72?

Anyone know anyone who is recieving assistance that does not need it(if they moved in with relatives)? I know of some.

I think it is time to admit that we do not have the money for any programs.

[Broken Arrow]

So, maybe elsewhere on the internet, a couple is probably venting their frustration right now about how Uncle Sam has failed them for providing the necessary bail out money to provide shelter for their children.

Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it?

[Goldy1]

Yes, everyone gets things from the gov BUT some get a whole lot more. I always found it ironic that middle class with assets can not get healthcare but if they spent down all thier money they could. It is being punished for being responsible.

[wnlbutterfly]

QUOTE: "People were brighter before technology came in and dumbed everybody down. But research that appropriately weighs all existing factors shows that there has been no increase in whatever phenomena everyone is concerned about."

I think test scores is showing otherwise on that issue (not so much blaming it on technology).

I believe I am example how the system is suppose to work (welfare), when we were first married and trying to get through college, we lived in low-income housing, we did get food stamps, no cash assistance (would have been better off unmarried), but we got through college, got on our feet, moved out, we were on free lunches for the kids for awhile, but eventually made too much income for that and I was okay with that.

I would have to look back to see when the last time we got EIC on our taxes, it has been so long. We pay taxes now (paying back into the system that helped us), and we have our own home now. We make too much money for any free grants for our DD school (we HAD to have those grants to help us through school).

It was designed to help in time of need, not to be a lifestyle, and that is what it has become to some people.

Really too bad about the house, I guess they don't realize that they just lost even more value in the home (to offset some of those mortgages). I would guess they will file bankruptcy? Or will they just not even bother. I will never understand some people.

[Inkstain82]

I think it is time to admit that we do not have the money for any programs.

Personally, I'd rather just admit that our tax rates are obscenely low and we don't have the money to have a military budget dozens of times larger than any other country.

We'd have the debt paid off in a generation and could have all the programs we wanted and then some.

[Seeker]

QUOTE: "People were brighter before technology came in and dumbed everybody down. But research that appropriately weighs all existing factors shows that there has been no increase in whatever phenomena everyone is concerned about."

I think test scores is showing otherwise on that issue (not so much blaming it on technology).

I think things are very much worse today than even 25 years ago. People seem very much different, and I'm not sure why. I doubt that technology is the cause of it.

Today I see some people not working (and these are people very capable of working), but won't take a job "because I'd have to give the money to my ex for child support," or I see people not attending the classes in college they signed up for, or I see people not really take any responsibility for their lives.

Yes, I've also seen "responsible" people; but these days I feel overwhelmed with the sense that more people are irresponsible; and that "responsibility" has become the minority.