Mona Vie

[disneysteve]

I think that there are reasons to take some supplements.

I agree. I didn't mean to shoot down all supplements. There are ones that I recommend to my patients in appropriate situations. I was referring more to the mindset I see regularly that supplements are OTC so they must be safe and effective and I can take them no matter what, and if one pill is good, 3 pills must be even better.

[Aleta]

Agreed. The worst case scenario is that the patients that don't tell their physicians about their intake of supplements which could in effect be an interference with their prescriptions.

Like you, if I have to take 50 supplements a day, I beter check in to a hospital.

[disneysteve]

The worst case scenario is that the patients that don't tell their physicians about their intake of supplements

Yep. People don't consider supplements to be drugs or medicines so they don't report them unless specifically asked. I got into the habit some time ago of asking patients if they are on any medication by saying, "Do you take any medicines, vitamins or supplements, either prescription, over the counter, herbal or natural?"

[sweeps]

Speaking of high-priced placebos, expensive sugar pills work better than cheap ones.

[disneysteve]

Speaking of high-priced placebos, expensive sugar pills work better than cheap ones.

That doesn't surprise me at all. There have also been studies that showed certain colored pills "work" better than others. I seem to recall that red was the most effective color.

This is the same reasoning (or lack of reasoning) when patients insist on brand name drugs. They convince themselves that generics, being cheaper, must not be as good. More expensive = better in their minds.

[RJB1180]

My wife used it and Goji juice more as a vitamin, ie all servings of whatever, when viewed that why it was not bad, plus we got it at disturbutor cost as our friend was a seller, the sellers also make a bunch.

[cschin4]

Steve - You are so right about people jumping through the hoops for MLM and buying into every claim they make but being "skeptical" about traditional medicine. I have friends who are deep into the nutritional movement and MLM. The point I try to make is that nothing they are trying to sell me is "natural" because what they are selling is superconcentrated and put in a can or bottle. Their stuff is no more "natural" than any pill that has been modified and put into a package, etc. And, it is always amazing to point out the fillers that have been added to these "natural" products" as well. Tylenol and other medications are just as natural as that stuff.
And, it is also amazing that people will pay $100's per month for this stuff and then complain about having to pay $4 for a month's prescription. Go figure.
I think taking nutritional supplements and realizing they are supplements is fine. But, when you start touting them as curing everything from A-Z then your BS o'meter should kick in.

[disneysteve]

My wife used it and Goji juice more as a vitamin, ie all servings of whatever, when viewed that why it was not bad, plus we got it at disturbutor cost as our friend was a seller, the sellers also make a bunch.

If you are taking it as a vitamin supplement, you are paying through the nose for the privilege. Why not go to your local Wal-Mart or CVS and buy a bottle of multivitamins? A year's supply will cost you under $20.

[The_Voice_Of_Reason]

MonaVie is a Scam

I signed up for the MonaVie business opportunity in March of this year. I have worked really hard to build this business and have invested hundreds of dollars into the MonaVie business to try to make a go of it. Throughout my time in MonaVie, the local leaders in our area have encouraged me to continue to invest my money and time and would be a Black Diamond inside of a year if I worked hard.

I have now come to realize that they have done nothing but lie to me and my family and made fraudulent statements to me and my friends so that we would continue to invest our money in MonaVie. They claim that anyone can make the money they are making if they spend enough money and time.

Everything they have told me is nothing but lies. I now know they only helped me so that I would buy more product to further their business. Monavie is a good product, but the company is horrible. They reward lying thieves and take money from hard working people like my family. Everyone I have brought into the MonaVie business is not quiting because of their lies.

I hope someone will shut them down before they spread more hurt.