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  • #16
    Re: Wednesday's Dr. Phil


    It all seemed very self-serving to me. I typically like Dr. Phil, however, I was unimpressed.

    And here's a good question. The people living in the RV were talking about running out of gas, etc. Are you trying to tell us that Dad can't even work a PT job at a fast-food place for gas money? Get real.

    Also, the guy who wasn't paying child support made some good points. He was still in the wrong and was using his logic, in part, to avoid his duty. However, child support should go to the child(ren); it's not alimony.

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by Gruntina
      I remember my childhood living with just my mom growing up. She lived paycheck to paycheck but only never knew if there was going to be another paycheck and sometimes there were not.
      Gruntina, I think more of us share this pain than can admit it. I remember being about 4 with my mom in a store and saying something to the effect of "I wish everything were free". Her statement was "We couldn't afford it even if it was free"...

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by greedy4chips
        What I mean is, do people really live on this week's pay versus mortgaging all their future paychecks to get what they want today. I don't think I know one person (in real life) who is totally debt free and able to live paycheck to paycheck.
        I have no debt and I'm a pretty regular gal. Thirty five years old, full time real job. No credit card debt, no school loans, no mortgage, car payments, etc. I even pay my car insurance 6 months in full at a time, not in installments. In financial terms I am absolutely debt free.

        Now some of that may not be a good thing; I'd rather have a BA instead of an AA and some school loans; some may argue a mortgage would be a good debt (in CA, who knows).

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by lrjohnson
          Now some of that may not be a good thing; I'd rather have a BA instead of an AA and some school loans; some may argue a mortgage would be a good debt (in CA, who knows).
          it's like a horrible catch 22, isn't it? thre's debt that's worthwhile, or expected, or what-have-you, but at the same time you frequently have to have credit to get credit for those worthwhile items. a lot of lenders feel a record with no open credit is only slightly less risky than a record with a spotted history.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by tinapbeana
            it's like a horrible catch 22, isn't it? thre's debt that's worthwhile, or expected, or what-have-you, but at the same time you frequently have to have credit to get credit for those worthwhile items. a lot of lenders feel a record with no open credit is only slightly less risky than a record with a spotted history.
            Well, I'm trying to play both sides a little. I do have a credit card; I just don't owe anything on it. I routinely charge on it and pay it off immediately. I have a pretty decent credit score. And I may end up with a mortgage. The only reason I don't already have one is the whole California real estate thing.

            For years I was all cash all the time and had no credit; I know how that works. No debt, but no credit history.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by lrjohnson
              Well, I'm trying to play both sides a little. I do have a credit card; I just don't owe anything on it. I routinely charge on it and pay it off immediately. I have a pretty decent credit score. And I may end up with a mortgage. The only reason I don't already have one is the whole California real estate thing.
              I'm trying to get to the point where I can do the same thing w/ my CC, except it will be my elec & cell phone bills that get charged every month. That'll keep it well below the 35% balance at all times. debating about epaying the CC half the balance the 1st and 15th of every month, which will pay the expenses in full every month, but make it look like I'm carrying a 'healthy' balance on paper.

              As for the CA housing market... AAAACK!!! I can't imagine. Watched an episode of 'Flip that House' where they were selling a house in Watts. 3BR/2BA 1200 sf (which here is small for that # BRs). They made a point to mention that half the pop. were at or below the gov't poverty level & they reno houses to give something to the community, then they turn around and list the house for 400k!!! I guess they're giving the community higher property values, just not the ability to buy a house.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by poundwise
                Also, the guy who wasn't paying child support made some good points. He was still in the wrong and was using his logic, in part, to avoid his duty. However, child support should go to the child(ren); it's not alimony.
                What were his logics for not paying child support?

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                • #23
                  Re: Wednesday's Dr. Phil

                  Originally posted by Broken Arrow
                  What were his logics for not paying child support?
                  Wasn't sure the money was being spent on HIS kid. Sorry but that is so totally bogus. He was also whining that it was too much based on what he makes now as opposed to when it was set. He can't afford to pay that much then at least pay SOMETHING. He helped make a baby, either take the kid and raise it or help pay for it. My heart goes out to those kids having parents like that.

                  BTW-I get child support and my kid came home after hearing Dad whine about it. We sat down and did a budget for all his expenses and found out I pay approximately twice what Dad pays I just don't write a check every month. I don't however separate the Child Support from any other money and make sure I spend it ONLY on the kid. I am lucky in that Dad is usually ready to help out with clothes and stuff when DS needs it and always pays his child support each month as agreed.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Wednesday's Dr. Phil

                    Child support is a catch 22. The father (usually the one paying) thinks the money should go for his kids. Well kids need to get to places, (car) kids need water, electricity, housing, food, etc...etc..etc.. So I don't buy into the line that the $$ is being used for 'bills' the ex creates. Um... granted she can take it to far, but the one paying is not at liberty to say HOW the money is spent! It's not like the one getting it can just tuck it away for college! They need that money to keep the household floating most of the time. That father was in the wrong, but the mom had issues too....and guess what...we ALL have our issues. And boy can it complicated when ex's are involved!

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