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  • LA / SoCal housing is so expensive. What to do?

    I need help for my next step.

    For those who doesn't know my background. I'm young (early 20's), have a job with a salary of $45,000 right now ($2900 take home per month), here is my first thread asking advice in finance and buying a new car but that's different discussion.

    I'm ready to live independently and have my first apartment. I'm looking for an apartment for a couple of weeks now and I don't see any good apartment with my budget. Housing is so expensive. I really want to move as soon as possible (ideally Feb or March). I don't have any debts and I will probably have around $15,000 savings by Feb. I have more than $11,000 right now and expecting a christmas bonus and tax return and plus anything I will save from today to Feb. I am expecting an increase in salary probably in the first quarter of 2013. I only want to spend of maximum of 28% of my take home for housing so that would be $812/month apartment but a decent apartment in LA is expensive. I want 1 bedroom if possible or a really good studio. I work in the valley area so my ideal area is LA, North Hollywood or Burbank.

    I really want to move as soon as possible and my family will kick me out probably soon cause they want me to move and live independently too.

    I don't really like to spend a lot of money for housing and I'd rather save it for the future but life is not perfect and there will be a time that we need to move forward.

    I'm so afraid that if I rent apartment and pay let say $950 + utilities, it will take around more than 30% or 35% of my take home income.

    I found a couple of apartments ranging from $850 to $950, is it reasonable to go over the budget of 28%?

    PS. I don't want to get a roommate.
    Last edited by newguy; 01-01-2013, 09:58 PM.

  • #2
    If you don't want a roommate and don't want to spend a large percentage of your income on housing, then expand your search to include "so-so" studios. As long as it is safe & not a health hazard, what more do you really NEED? The less you spend now, the more you will have to spend in the future (on a home of your own, retirement, etc.)

    Don't forget to factor in how where you live influences other areas of your budget. For example, if you live within a short walking distance to work, it might be worth paying a bit more on rent because you can eliminate or greatly reduce car expenses and food expenses (you'll spend less time on commuting and have more time to prep meals and will be better able to resist the urge to eat out).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by newguy View Post
      I only want to spend of maximum of 28% of my take home for housing

      PS. I don't want to get a roommate.
      Originally posted by scfr View Post
      If you don't want a roommate and don't want to spend a large percentage of your income on housing, then expand your search to include "so-so" studios.
      I agree that if you want to keep housing under 28%(which I totally agree with) but insist on living alone, then you need to expand your search and be less picky about where you live. That might mean a smaller space, a longer commute, a less desirable neighborhood, etc.

      If you do get a raise, that will raise that $812 figure somewhat which will help. Another option is to get a second part-time job to boost your income.
      Steve

      * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
      * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
      * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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      • #4
        Agreed with the others. When I lived in a High Cost area I *never* lived alone. That was just a completely ridiculous luxury, financially. It's not like I preferred having roommates, but I had no other choice.

        Other ideas:

        House sit (long-term house sitting gigs - while saving up money for the long run)
        Get a second job or seek out other sources of income
        move to another city

        If it is *that* important to you, you will find options.

        Another thing some of my friends did was rent apartments attached to residences. They often did not have a full kitchen, but would have a private entry/private room and be priced far more reasonably than an apartment.

        I don't recommend this for the short run, or until you have 20% down payment saved up, etc., but for the long run, keep an eye on condos and townhomes. When I moved in with my spouse it was considerably cheaper to buy an apartment than to rent one. I don't think you are in that position yet, and don't want to encourage this for today, but something to think about for the more long-term if you are committed to staying in the area.
        Last edited by MonkeyMama; 01-02-2013, 06:46 AM.

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        • #5
          Have you examined the possibility of a 'Mother-in-law' type suite, often a remodeled basement or garage in a house? These are often illegal for zoning but adequate quarters. They aren't listed by agencies but you could check Craigslist or try a free ad asking what you want based on the ads you see.

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          • #6
            How far are you willing to commute to live with the luxury of NOT having a roommate. Can you live in Riverside or Diamond Bar and endure the multi-hour commute? I know people who do that.

            I know when I first started out in L.A., I needed to have a roommate because a short commute was the important thing for me.

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            • #7
              Thank you for the reply.

              I don't really want to get a second part-time job cause I'm working M-F 8-5 and I feel like weekends should be my rest day , but I do accept some free lance work sometimes, its my second source of income but its not really consistent but at least I can do it at home.

              I don't like room mates or apartments attached to residences like the so called 'mother in law' suite.

              Well, the best thing I can do right now is I'll just have to wait til Feb and see what happens. Hopefully I'll get a raise on my 1 year evaluation with my current job and if I do, I might get a decent 1 bedroom ranging from $850 to $950, if I don't I'll probably just get a small studio ranging from $800+. I found a couple of small studios from $800 which is 'okay'.

              Thanks guys for the advice.

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              • #8
                FWIW, I don't think that a $800/month apartment is a "ridiculous luxury" given your income. I think you have the income to swing it. Other things might have to give. But it is what it is.

                Just to clarify from my earlier comment.

                My experience was basically spending as little as possible until able to save up the down payment on a condo. I really have no idea how one rents and saves to own, otherwise. (Beyond for it taking more a decade or decades to save up). So the short-term sacrifices paid off immensely in the long run. So just some food for thought. But, beyond that, people do it every day and are fine. If living 100% alone is a priority, then other things are what give. We have never spent any large sums on vehicles, just as an example. That is the obvious sacrifice when it comes to high housing costs, as cars are usually the next most expensive living expense. People who do well in high cost areas just re-prioritize.

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=newguy;344513I found a couple of small studios from $800 which is 'okay'.
                  [/QUOTE]

                  Good to see you are willing to keep an open mind about this option. For the short term, "okay" really is OK!

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                  • #10
                    Consider challenging your decision about living with roommates. I have lived in San Francisco and now live in San Diego. I suggest sitting down on a trial basis with MANY potential roommates on Craigslist until you feel comfortable with the interview process.

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                    • #11
                      Suggest you start listing all the items you'll need for independent living from furniture to small bits like hangers, light bulbs & tp. How much will set up cost? Where will you get best bang for the buck? The cheapest isn't necessarily the best value per unit.

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                      • #12
                        If you work in the Valley, you don't need to live in Burbank or N. Hollywood. That may be a desire, but it isn't a necessity.

                        You can go further West or North and save quite a bit. Things get cheaper further out. That is one option.

                        Another option is to find a small guest house in the back of someone's house. There are those around.

                        As a last resort, you could either rent a room from someone (I rented a room from an older single lady for 3 years in Burbank and saved a fortune while I was still single) or find a roommate.

                        Bottom line, you may not get all you want in the price range in which you are looking. You may need to adjust your expectations.

                        Dawn

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by AccountantSalary View Post
                          How far are you willing to commute to live with the luxury of NOT having a roommate. Can you live in Riverside or Diamond Bar and endure the multi-hour commute? I know people who do that.

                          I know when I first started out in L.A., I needed to have a roommate because a short commute was the important thing for me.
                          Wow with gas prices every 10 extra miles you have to commute to work can turn into another $100 or so a month. So if you're saving $200 living 10 miles further, its not really THAT much more. Just something else to consider in this beautiful economy.

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                          • #14
                            I also live in a pretty high cost area. You pay for wjat you get... if youre relativey young nothing wrong with roommates or small studios. I think learnimg to live with less is an important life lesson

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