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  • #61
    Cicy33: Precisely. The manufacturors and sellers of dishwasher prey on people's lack of knowledge about the word sanitize! I figured it meant something special to until I was in nursing school and learned the truth.

    Joan of Arch:
    Main Entry: pas·teur·i·za·tion
    Pronunciation: \ˌpas-chə-rə-ˈzā-shən, ˌpas-tyə-, -tə-\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1886
    1 : partial sterilization of a substance and especially a liquid (as milk) at a temperature and for a period of exposure that destroys objectionable organisms without major chemical alteration of the substance
    2 : irradiation of food products

    Pastuerization is a totally different method. Not something that dishwashers are set up to do.

    I loved the story of the lady during the polio plague! Pouring boiling water over her dishes probably got them pretty clean but I don't think it would have helped against the polio as that is transmitted via viruses like a cold and the flu I believe. It was probably everything else she was doing such as making sure her kids stayed clean and washing their hands frequently. That was a dreadful time for people. I remembering going to school with a girl who had had polio as the vaccine only came out when I was 5-6. It always amazes me that young, new mothers don't want their kids vaccinated against this horror, but many of them have also never seen what it can do to a child.

    I hope people don't think I am being quarrelsome, I'm not. but one of the things that we can bring to the frugal board is knowledge about what is true and what is hype. And saying dishwashers sanitizes your dishes just means they clean them and nothing else. By the time you put them away, you have already put germs back on them temporarily from your hands. Then depending on how quick you use them again they may be collecting dust particles.

    In the question concerning using a dishwasher vs. hand washing it should be how much water/energy does one system use vs. the other. And would you rather stand and wash or pile everything in the dishwasher and get on with life? Your dishes will be just as clean and useable by either method (assuming you aren't blind and can't see blobs of stuff when hand washing).
    Gailete
    http://www.MoonwishesSewingandCrafts.com

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    • #62
      I don't disagree with you gailete. I think handwashing gets dishes "clean enough". We don't have to live in a completely disinfected world. ("God made dirt and dirt don't hurt" )

      However, somewhere in this thread was an argument about saving water. It's unclear to me how much water you save by handwashing over using the dishwasher. And frankly for me, the small savings in water (if any) and electricity are greatly overshadowed by my savings in time and frustration. If you've ever cleaned baby bottles and nipples by hand, I'm sure you'll say it's not fun.
      Last edited by sweeps; 04-18-2008, 06:26 AM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by cicy33 View Post
        So, basically, the big hype, this dishwasher sanitizes! is just that. hype. They all sanitize.
        Not true. Not all dishwashers sanitize. If they all did, there would be no need for restaurants, hospitals, cafeterias and the like to buy special dishwashers.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by sweeps View Post
          I don't disagree with you gailete. I think handwashing gets dishes "clean enough". We don't have to live in a completely disinfected world. ("God made dirt and dirt don't hurt" )

          However, somewhere in this thread was an argument about saving water. It's unclear to me how much water you save by handwashing over using the dishwasher. And frankly for me, the small savings in water (if any) and electricity are greatly overshadowed by my savings in time and frustration. If you've ever cleaned baby bottles and nipples by hand, I'm sure you'll say it's not fun.
          Actually when I started this thread it was equally about the savings of electric bill. Probably more so. My water bill doesn't seem to vary more than a dollar or two. I still feel that a dishwasher sucks a lot of power and you can save money by washing by hand. To address the time issue, I read an article somewhere, and I can't remember where, but it was talking about all the things we do differently now than 40 years ago and the difference it has made in our calorie burning and activity. This was one of the items. Another one is opening a door instead of using the auto doors. We as a society have gotten so busy, myself included that we no longer have time to wash dishes. That is sad.

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          • #65
            That's true, cicy, good point. And I think the intent of your thread is good -- sorry it got derailed.

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            • #66
              I actually don't mind the derailing. It helps bring similar items of interest to people who don't otherwise know about it.

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              • #67
                I thought I had read somewhere that a dishwasher actually uses less water than doing them by hand. I don't have a source for that info, however.

                Note that I didn't say it uses less energy; just less water.

                My wife and I are pretty green, but we use a dishwasher. We do make sure it's a full load, though.
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                • #68
                  I started washing by hand again and it saves me electric, water, and time, I can wash faster than my diswasher and can get them cleaner too. Liquid dish soap is cheaper too. I'm in!

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                  • #69
                    I don't mind washing dishes by hand. But I'm never sure if I'm using too much or too little water...

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                    • #70
                      I have recently sold my house and I am living in a rented house until I retire and move away in a few months.

                      I have had a dishwasher for the past 25 years, unlike many here in England. I have never had problems with the dishes not being cleaned properly, unlike when the dishes have been washed by hand!

                      In my rented house there is no room for my dishwasher and we are washing up by hand. I hate it, I can't wait till I get somewhere to put my wonderful dishwashing friend. I live a frugal life, I save 40% of our joint income even paying a Ł895 a month rent, I spend Ł200 a month on housekeeping and I make my own bread. I recycle and do lots of things to reduce my carbon footprint. My credentials in these areas are very good, at least honours degree level.

                      BUT - I love my dishwasher and I miss it. I have yet to go into the garage where it is stored and tell it how I feel, but that time is getting near.

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                      • #71
                        If you've ever cleaned baby bottles and nipples by hand, I'm sure you'll say it's not fun.
                        I rarely had to do that as I nursed my babies (what bottles and nipples I had to wash were done by hand as I didn't have a dishwasher), but that is a whole other issue.

                        We moved into this house about a year ago. Hubby built it and so we got to design the kitchen and I oped out of having a dishwasher, so all our dishes are washed by hand. Now that I have a bird feeder and flower garden in front of the window over the kitchen sink it isn't that much trouble at all I found when I did have diswashers that my glasses got etched and broke constantly, even corelle dishes were breaking. I think it has something to do with the detergent and shaking the dishes go through during the wash cycle. Without the dishwasher, my glasses and dishes stay intact. I don't use that much water when washing and now I've seen some interesting and lovely birds too.

                        Gail
                        Gailete
                        http://www.MoonwishesSewingandCrafts.com

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                        • #72
                          I no longer have a dishwasher. I needed the space for a trash compactor.

                          I don't miss my dishwasher one bit.

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                          • #73
                            I've been washing dishes by hand. But I'm almost thinking I'm using *more* water -- because I like to see all that soap get rinsed off. Does anyone else have this experience?

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                            • #74
                              I haven't read this whole thread but I just wanted to share that washing your dishes by hand does use more water. If you load your dishwasher all the way full and use the energy-saver options, you will use much less water.

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                              • #75
                                well, i have never had the luxury of having a dishwasher so i always do them by hand. between BF, myself and our flatmate, we have a roster - so we only have to do the dishes every third load.

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