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  • The Malls Can't Sell Pizza

    Sometimes, the biggest clues to financial health lie in the tiny details.

    Sbarro, the pizza maker that’s ubiquitous in food courts across the country, recently filed for a second bankruptcy in three years. The chain is going for a Chapter 11 reorganization. The filing cited “declining traffic in the mall food courts where it does much of its business.”

    Think about that. Pizza, one of the most popular foods in the world, can’t make money in a mall.

    That’s just one more small sign that the era of regional shopping centers drawing customers with a vast selection of things you can feel and touch may be drawing to a close. And other non-mall retailers may soon be feeling the pinch as well, as we move from an era of getting in the car and traveling to go shopping, to sitting at home and ordering it with a click.

    With online shopping now accounting for some 40% of overall sales, doubling since 2012 to the Seattle Times, it’s only a matter of time before your local mall joins the long, sad list at deadmalls.com, a site devoted to the demise of this particular retail phenomenon.

    Part of the change is cultural. Malls rely on so-called “anchor” tenants, which used to include Sears, Montgomery Ward, Woolworth’s, and other old-school retailers that sold a little bit of everything. But today’s big box chains – the Targets, Walmarts and the like – prefer to have their own free-standing locations.

    Of course, incidents like this, or this, don’t help.

    It’s Not Just the Malls

    There are companies that specialize in shopping malls that are doing well. Senior citizens, after all, need a space to walk around. And there are places where inclement weather, or lack of income, leaves little to do on a Saturday.

    But most of the value of a mall is based on the lease rates it purportedly can get, an estimate looking all the more shaky in an age where major tenants are opting out and foot traffic is diminishing. These highly leveraged locations may be caught in a death spiral.

    Add to that that we’re just in the early stages of the “on-demand” revolution. Companies like Amazon are gearing up in a big way, opening huge retail distribution centers that allow them to get you goods within a day, sometimes on the same day. Of course, these centers employ few full-time employees, relying instead on temps when the “surge” of retail activity hits during the December season. But that’s another story.

    In fact, some analysts believe that overall US retail growth is an illusion, being fueled by poaching and expansion. In The American Model of “Growth”: Overbuilding and Poaching, the theory goes that if one Starbucks is great, two are even better. And a lot of similar thinking goes into the expansions of drug store chains and other retail players, many of whom poach customers from the big box stores.

    This, of course, will lead to many chains hitting their limits, closing unprofitable stores, and dragging down retail locations as vacancies affect nearby businesses.
    Last edited by jeffrey; 03-14-2014, 02:33 PM.

  • #2
    I'm not convinced that malls can't sell pizza profitably. I think the article is drawing an general inference from a specific circumstance. In our mall, Pizzeria Regina is doing quite well. The difference? Sbarro pizza sucked. It was generally either excessively greasy or dried out and tasteless. Sbarro seemed to be in business strictly to extract unreasonably high margins from what were supposed to be high traffic areas, by offering cheap stuff at a premium. That's the difference between a business that is trying to make profit off of its real estate prowess (location, location, location) versus one that is trying to make profit off of being a reason why people come to the mall (like Pizzeria Regina).

    Another mall chain went into bankruptcy this week: Quiznos. I draw the same distinction. D'Angelo and Subway would do great in malls. They aim to be the reason why people come to their eatery. Quiznos again was a mall-specific chain, again trying to peddle crap at high prices just on account of their taking up the spot in the mall where people have fewer options about where to eat.

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    • #3
      Sbarro was also extremely expensive. A slice of pizza and a soda was about 10 bucks. I like the mall, and i like pizza, but I'm not going to spend 10 bucks for a slice when i can go to Little Ceasars.

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      • #4
        Nobody should sell pizza except New York.

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        • #5
          In addition to being expensive, Sbarro is also terrible..... greasy, salty, low quality ingredients, no healthy options, etc. Even Domino's made over their recipe and saw a huge boom in business.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LittleMissSplendid View Post
            Even Domino's made over their recipe and saw a huge boom in business.
            Funny that you mention Domino's. We never thought they were great but we used to order from them periodically when we just didn't feel like doing anything else - maybe once every month or two. Then they totally changed their pizza. Now it is simply awful. We tried it once and none of us liked it. We tried it a second time weeks later just in case we caught them on a bad day and it was just as bad. We haven't gotten it since and won't ever get it again - unless they change back to their original product.
            Steve

            * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
            * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
            * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
              Funny that you mention Domino's. We never thought they were great but we used to order from them periodically when we just didn't feel like doing anything else - maybe once every month or two. Then they totally changed their pizza. Now it is simply awful. We tried it once and none of us liked it. We tried it a second time weeks later just in case we caught them on a bad day and it was just as bad. We haven't gotten it since and won't ever get it again - unless they change back to their original product.
              LOL! I have heard about a group of people that prefer the old recipe and were petitioning to get them to change it back. Perhaps they'll bring it back for a limited time or something.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LittleMissSplendid View Post
                LOL! I have heard about a group of people that prefer the old recipe and were petitioning to get them to change it back. Perhaps they'll bring it back for a limited time or something.
                Well we wouldn't go so far as to petition them as the original wasn't that terrific either, but it was 100% better than the junk they serve now. I've been eating Domino's since college in the early 1980s when they were a new company so the fact that we've entirely given up on them says something.
                Steve

                * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LittleMissSplendid View Post
                  LOL! I have heard about a group of people that prefer the old recipe and were petitioning to get them to change it back. Perhaps they'll bring it back for a limited time or something.
                  LOL -- Domino's Classic.

                  I like the new recipe, but we rarely get Domino's. We're deep dish and Chicago-style pizza fans.

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                  • #10
                    Funny, I had some really good pizza at an outlet mall. I presume they were making money because they were there year after year.

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