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  • riverwed070707
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    Originally posted by Rocco1235 View Post
    Anyone have any good articles, books, or just advice on a good way to learn and invest in the real estate market? Want to start reading about it and learn as much as I can before I actually start putting my money in it!
    Bigger pockets is a great resource. Good articles, investment analysis calculators and forums for questions

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  • OldJew11
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    Cologero, How did you come to this? What information did you read?

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  • cologero
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    Hello everyone,

    Quick update since I started this thread originally (I'll post more when I have a little more time). I decided to take the plunge so I purchased a SFH last April (sight unseen and after getting laid off from my job after 7 years...long story). I now have 5 doors/4 properties. I've also bumped my net worth from $165K to $288K in about 6 months. My goal is to to have 10 by the end of 2019 and 20 by the end of 2020.

    My point of this post is to give other people hope that things can change quickly if you're smart about it and surround yourself with the right people. While I still have a long way to go, it's because of people on sites like this that make success possible!

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  • TexasHusker
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    I bet you have a friend in real estate. Buy him/her a drink one night at Chili's. They've got a decent selection of beer and the advice might be better than what you can find in a book.

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  • Rocco1235
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    Originally posted by james.hendrickson View Post
    What about something from the Dummies series? Usually that's a good starting place.
    I have some of those, but was just wondering if their are any better books/articles out there.

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  • james.hendrickson
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    Originally posted by Rocco1235 View Post
    Anyone have any good articles, books, or just advice on a good way to learn and invest in the real estate market? Want to start reading about it and learn as much as I can before I actually start putting my money in it!
    What about something from the Dummies series? Usually that's a good starting place.

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  • Rocco1235
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    Originally posted by cologero View Post
    Hello,

    I've really taken an interest in learning about real estate this past year. I guess being 39 years old, I feel like I've wasted time not investing in assets that could generate some level of passive income for me in the near future (vs. my 401K and IRA's that will not be available until I'm in my 60's). I guess my goal would be to eventually have $1-$2K coming in each month in profit so I could at least cover the bulk of my bills?

    I spoke with a friend who has a successful real estate business, but unfortunately felt like I wasn't getting advice as a friend...moreso advise on how I could start while he could make money off me. Let's just say, I felt a bit uncomfortable, so I decided to post here. Some questions off the top of my head are:
    - How much cash is normally needed to begin?
    - Is crowdfunding a good option? For example, my friends company pays investors 10% annually.
    - Any books that are must reads? I just finished up Rich Dad Poor Dad and the The Millionaire Real Estate Investor
    - Is it ever ok to buy a property with a friend or relative you trust?
    - I have maybe $10K to invest or use as a downpayment on a rental, but is using that type of cash the right move? Does it always cost a lot of money to start up? I'm single and have time and energy to invest in the evenings and on weekends.
    - Probably doesn't matter, but my background has been in Management, Operations, Client Services, and Sales at an executive level over the past 15 years.
    - Are there other more realistic ways to generate passive income outside of real estate investing?

    Maybe my questions aren't the right ones because, I don't know what I don't know...but I do know I am a very hard worker with drive and ambition. Unfortunately, I do not have any real estate mentors in the real world, so any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
    Anyone have any good articles, books, or just advice on a good way to learn and invest in the real estate market? Want to start reading about it and learn as much as I can before I actually start putting my money in it!

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  • Rocco1235
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    Anyone have any good articles, books, or just advice on a good way to learn and invest in the real estate market? Want to start reading about it and learn as much as I can before I actually start putting my money in it!

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  • chestynuts
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    Well, hoping that we could be closing our deal about a property next week. This can be my first real estate investment.

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  • TexasHusker
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    Originally posted by chestynuts View Post
    I've been reading all opinions and tips regarding real estate investing and its giving me unique ideas to pursue my plans for it.
    Cool! What are your plans?

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  • chestynuts
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    I've been reading all opinions and tips regarding real estate investing and its giving me unique ideas to pursue my plans for it.

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  • beattywhite7
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    you may have solid Neighborhood comps for that area you are trying to invest in property. I've been in the business since the 90's and I also used to be a licensed real estate agent. A broker's price opinion will vary from broker to broker like the weather and opinions are like lawyers; everyone has one.

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  • AJ444
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    I receive all of my passive income from Total Market stock/bond fund in my taxable account. I like it because I literally donít have to do a thing for it, dividends/interest simply deposit into my checking account each month/quarter.

    Full disclosure, Iím not a fan of real estate because I donít like the headaches, I donít even own my own home and prefer to rent. Iíve owned my own home and managed a rental in the past. I donít disagree rentals can can be a source of income for some people, but it isnít for everyone and not all of them make money. I do think you are asking the right questions if you want to get into it and then need to determine if it is for you.

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  • Smallsteps
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    thank you Texashusker, for your thoughtful advice.
    At the moment the best scenario is just to have my gift to them be unappreciated at the present time I do not need the money. but the suggestions of how to approach it will be helpful if things would change.
    I am only concerned about their late payments as they are developing bad habits not that it would hurt their credit.
    I guess that since they started this late payment thing I feel disrespected and then a few people ask about the house as they want to rent it or know someone who would and it reminds me that in fact I could be making money on it.

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  • TexasHusker
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    You are in a very difficult position, because "business" has become convoluted with "family."

    If you own a home, even if it is your own home, it is your business: It is a huge asset, and as the owner/borrower, you are constantly preserving that asset. If it is your own home, it is a business without income, but you still have to manage it like a business.

    When you own a home to rent it, it is also a business: You mind it, manage it, plus you receive income for it.

    In your case, the business/investment is under-performing because you are renting it for approximately 40 percent of the current rental rates (a 60% discount). That means you are subsidizing the housing for your daughter and son-in-law.

    Your daughter and son-in-law have no motive to do anything different because 1) They are living on the cheap, at your expense, and 2) They can pay you whenever they desire. That is a pretty good deal for them, not such a good deal for you.

    The decision is ultimately yours as to whether or not you wish to continue to subsidize their housing. It could be that you can easily afford it, they need the help, and that's that. If that is the case, I wouldn't say another word about it and continue as you were. Consider it a gift to your daughter and grandchildren that you adore. Of course, they will likely never appreciate the gift, but that's beside the point really.

    If you feel that the arrangement needs to change, you have several options:

    1. You can be upfront about the whole deal and say "I will need fair market for rent starting on August 1 (pick your month). Your father and I count on this income for our needs, so we need to get the correct amount, and it will need to be on time, or you will need to do something else."

    I don't recommend this approach. Even though you would be 100 percent right, in family situations, you often "win the battle" but "lose the war." Are you prepared not to see your grand kids again? Are you prepared for no more Thanksgiving and Christmas visits? That will be the likely outcome if you take this approach. Not fair, but that's the way it is.

    2. You can be more stealthy and accomplish your objective. "Guys, your dad and I need to sell that home you are living in because dad has an investment he really needs the money for. So you have 1 year to figure out another arrangement - we wanted to give you plenty of heads up."

    There might still be a few hard feelings, but this way it's not a personal confrontation. In fact, solicit their help with the transaction! Tell them that you are going to sell "by owner" and you will pay them 3% of the sales price for their efforts in getting the place in shape, showing it, etc.

    This will help provide some down payment help to them for their own home purchase at some point, and they will have more "buy in" in helping you sell it and get top dollar.

    If you handle this delicately, you can accomplish everything you want:

    1. Get $$$ out of the home.
    2. Help them get into a house near you.
    3. Grand kids will be a lot closer.

    Now, if you ever "blow your cover" and talk about how they haven't paid you on time, they are paying you less than market, etc., then all bets are off. You will have to be stealthy and not mention those things. Stick with the "company line" that "me and your dad need to sell the house to do XYZ".

    FINALLY, the fact that they have paid you late isn't going to affect their credit or ability to rent another home, UNLESS YOU ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO REPORT THOSE LATE PAYMENTS TO THE BANK OR FUTURE LANDLORD WHEN THEY ASK.

    Good luck!
    Last edited by TexasHusker; 03-08-2018, 02:33 PM.

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