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  • #46
    Originally posted by scfr View Post
    Aha! This might be why there is a communication gap between you and some of the members on this board.

    You see ... "Car" is indeed a budget/expense item. It does not matter whether you have saved money for it or whether you pay for it with your credit card, ANY money spent on your car for oil changes, new tires, repairs, etc. is a car expense and it needs to be budgeted for.

    Just for example, let's say you have kept track of all the money you spent on your car except for insurance and gas (your car expenses) for 3 years and when you add it all up you see that you spent:
    - $250 for new tires
    - $15 for new wiper blades
    - $180 for 9 oil changes (3 per year)
    - $250 for repairs
    - $18 for 18 times (every 2 months) vaccuming it out at $1 a pop
    - $2 for car washing soap
    - $90 for the annual registrations ($30 per year)
    - $60 for state inspections ($20 per year)

    When you add it up, you'd see that you spent $815 over 3 years. That means your monthly car expenses were $24. (Please note that I included even the small stuff like soap and vacuuming ... It all adds up, truly.)

    When you make your budget, which is you deciding in advance how you are going to allocate your income, you would look at what you spent in the past and estimate what you will be spending in the future. Let's say your car is getting older, and you know you're going to be facing higher repair bills. You might decide $24 per month isn't going to cut it so you budget $30 per month. Then, you might decide that it would be a good idea to add a AAA membership in case your car breaks down and you need a tow; so, you might decide to budget $35 per month for car expenses. After a few years (when you have more income coming in), you may decide that you want to be prepared to handle anything life throws your way AND you want to splurge on the $3 car soap ... then, you might decide to budget $50 per month for car expenses, which you think is more than you need but you decide to budget that much "just in case."

    That doesn't mean you will actually spend $30 (or $35 or $50) each month on car expenses. Many months you'll spend nothing, and some months you'll spend hundreds. But if you have planned for those expenses in your budget and left the money untouched in your bank account (or in your safe or in your envelopes or wherever you decide to keep it), then it will be there when you need it.

    And the same process I described above applies to anything and everything you might spend money on, now and in the future. It doesn't matter whether it's a pack of gum or a Corvette. To really get a handle on your finances, it's extremely important to see where every last penny is going and then come up with a spending plan for every last penny that is coming in. That's how you get started on the road to the things you say you want in life. You'll find that budgeting is a never-ending process. As life's circumstances and your goals change, you'll need to re-do it.

    Eventually, hopefully, the spending plan will include savings for long-term goals such as a bigger car, perhaps a house, college for your child, and retirement. Those are the types of things you are dreaming about, right? And they are all admirable goals by the way. But they are going to take years and years of planning, hard work and patience. As one who had to learn how to track expenses and budget, I will be honest and say that it is not easy. I found it quite challenging. But it was worth it.

    As they say, "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
    So ... if you haven't done it already ... get that little notebook and start carrying it with you everywhere (get one for your husband too) and start recording every last penny that you spend, no matter where the money is coming from!
    I understand what you mean, but we simply can't afford to do car maintenance. We have to save up just to do it. I don't have a budget for it because we haven't done it since we started tracking expenses. When we get our tax refund we are getting our car checked out because we can afford it. Until we make more money, we won't be able to afford routine car maintenance. That's why we don't use it a lot.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by minnie1928 View Post
      If you start a new post regarding your taxes, please post the link to it here.

      Once you've completed your taxes using Turbo Tax, print it out and compare each line item to what your original tax return said. Mark the lines that are different so that you can see them easily. Then go to: Tax Topics - Topic 308 Amended Returns. There you will find the form that you need to complete in order to amend your original return. It's pretty easy, basically there are 3 columns to fill out: original figure used, corrected figure, difference between the two.

      I did this last year for my parents taxes and it was painless. I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to amend a return.

      I tried doing that and it kept coming out wrong, so I resubmitted by e-file and I'm going into one of the local IRS offices today to have them cancel the other one. It was JUST received via mail so I don't think it will be too much hassle.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by jIM_Ohio View Post
        nicole-

        "as needed" is not a way to budget.

        A budget shows the same expenses every month for 6-12 months. It is not the same thing as balancing a checkbook and making sure you have the money to make ends meet.
        I understand that but that's how we are living right now. When we have more money to actually budget, we will. We just started tracking our expenses so we don't have any averages yet. We're just living as we go.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by skylovessea View Post
          I understand what you mean, but we simply can't afford to do car maintenance. We have to save up just to do it. I don't have a budget for it because we haven't done it since we started tracking expenses. When we get our tax refund we are getting our car checked out because we can afford it. Until we make more money, we won't be able to afford routine car maintenance. That's why we don't use it a lot.
          I may not have explained well enough. You don't actually have to have a long track record to create a budget. You can start with just a best-guess estimate of what your expenses will be in each category. As you get more "hard data" (from tracking your expenses), your budget will become more and more refined.

          One thing you could do, if you have not done it already, is create a budget for your expected tax refund: How much will go to pay late rent? How much will go to pay down debt? How much will be set aside for car maintenance, etc. My recommendation is that you make a plan for how to best spend every penny BEFORE the check arrives. That way, none of it will slip through your fingers.

          As far as affording routine car maintenance, I think you'll discover that it's much more affordable to pay for the routine stuff on schedule rather than getting stuck with a huge repair bill down the road. I hope you'll seriously consider finding a way to make room in your budget for it. Hopefully you can set aside some of that tax refund for this purpose and not touch it.

          Truly, the best thing you can do is sit down and and come up with a plan, and then do the hard work to follow through with it.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by wincrasher View Post
            Impatience is what got them into their situation in the first place.

            A baby at 18? Are you kidding me!?

            But what's done is done, I guess.

            From the posts I've read, they are not ready or able to be out on their own yet - the smart move would be to live with one set of parents or the other until they have enough saved to make a decent home.

            A husband who quits his job because of "ethical problems" when he has a wife and baby at home, no money, can't pay the rent, etc.? Are you kidding me!?

            Having to rely on public assistance, food stamps, whatever when his family is supposedly all wealthy or well-off? Makes me want to say really mean things.

            Yes this is young to have a baby but that does not make her a irresponsible person. Bet if you ask alot of people on here they could have been in the same boat!

            With that said I just want to say how proud I am of you to be only 19 and working to get and stay out of debt. I know alot of 19 year olds who only live life no tom. so congrats and I hope you reach your goals.

            Do you work or only your husband? You might consider working part time at home just to help out. I have been working for 4 years from home and don't make as much as hubby but mine pays for the groceries, formula and diapers!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by workingmamma View Post
              Yes this is young to have a baby but that does not make her a irresponsible person. Bet if you ask alot of people on here they could have been in the same boat!

              With that said I just want to say how proud I am of you to be only 19 and working to get and stay out of debt. I know alot of 19 year olds who only live life no tom. so congrats and I hope you reach your goals.

              Do you work or only your husband? You might consider working part time at home just to help out. I have been working for 4 years from home and don't make as much as hubby but mine pays for the groceries, formula and diapers!

              Thank you. I'm glad you see it that way. It's hard being a young mother. Not because I'm growing up fast (that's never been a problem for me) but because I get judged left and right and people think that my family was "an accident". It's very frustrating.

              Only my husband works. We won't put our son in childcare (I saw my sister deal with more than I could handle) and I have yet to find a legit SAH job. Everything I have found is a scam, and I don't have anything to provide as far as products or services that I could sell from home.

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              • #52
                Have you considered working opposite shifts from your DH? That will give you some traction in your budget and spending/saving goals?

                This might be necessary for at least 1 year to get yourself stabilized. After that maybe you could stay at home.

                Or perhaps consider watching someone else's baby along with your own?
                LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                  Have you considered working opposite shifts from your DH? That will give you some traction in your budget and spending/saving goals?

                  This might be necessary for at least 1 year to get yourself stabilized. After that maybe you could stay at home.

                  Or perhaps consider watching someone else's baby along with your own?
                  I have thought about it but my husband schedule varies. We've tried that before and we could never get the two jobs to work with the other schedule. If my husband finds a job with a stable work schedule, we will definitely do that.

                  I've posted babysitting services on CL as well but I've never gotten any replies.

                  Thank you for the ideas!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by skylovessea View Post
                    I've posted babysitting services on CL as well but I've never gotten any replies.
                    I think that would be the easiest thing to pursue. So CL hasnt panned out. Advertise other places. Tell all your friends and family. See if your husband can post an ad on the bulletin board at work. Does the supermarket have a community board with ads? Is there a YMCA or other community center that would let you post an ad? How about the local paper? Local churches? Don't limit yourself to Craigslist. There are plenty of other places you could be advertising. Babysitting is always in demand.
                    Steve

                    * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                    * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                      I think that would be the easiest thing to pursue. So CL hasnt panned out. Advertise other places. Tell all your friends and family. See if your husband can post an ad on the bulletin board at work. Does the supermarket have a community board with ads? Is there a YMCA or other community center that would let you post an ad? How about the local paper? Local churches? Don't limit yourself to Craigslist. There are plenty of other places you could be advertising. Babysitting is always in demand.
                      Thanks, that is great advice.

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                      • #56
                        It seems like things aren't so bad. Your debt seems to be mostly college tuition isn't that deferred til you graduate. people have come out of college with a lot more than 10,000 in debt. you could never rent a house for that little near where I live. I don't think and I am a kind person that I would want a family of three coming to live with me for only 400 I wouldn't do anything to jeapardize that if I were you. I really think you have answered your own ?s cause the things you stated in the beginning do not make an adult it is the things you stated recently that you are doing that make you an adult. I am so jealous cause you are only 19 and have found this site and are trying to do the right thing. If you start investing now I dont think there is any way you will not be a millionaire when you retire. You are way ahead of most your age. You will be fine.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Hot dog View Post
                          It seems like things aren't so bad. Your debt seems to be mostly college tuition isn't that deferred til you graduate. people have come out of college with a lot more than 10,000 in debt. you could never rent a house for that little near where I live. I don't think and I am a kind person that I would want a family of three coming to live with me for only 400 I wouldn't do anything to jeapardize that if I were you. I really think you have answered your own ?s cause the things you stated in the beginning do not make an adult it is the things you stated recently that you are doing that make you an adult. I am so jealous cause you are only 19 and have found this site and are trying to do the right thing. If you start investing now I dont think there is any way you will not be a millionaire when you retire. You are way ahead of most your age. You will be fine.
                          Thank you. That is very kind. I actually already have college loans to pay because I stopped going to school to get a certificate in the middle. The loans start either when you graduate or when you stop going. On some occasions, if you transfer directly from school to school in a certain amount of time, they will hold your loans. It just depends.

                          I would love to be able to pay off debt in a couple years so that I can start investing. Especially because I'm young. You are right, if I start early, I could have so much money invested by the time my son gets out on his own.

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                          • #58
                            Sky, what about talking to playgroup moms? Maybe you can help with their friend's children. One woman blogger get $25/week for picking up an older child from the bus stop until the mom gets home. Like 1 hour a day/4 days a week. Not a large amount, but like she said it's easy peasy.

                            It's a neighbor's kid actually. You could put out the word. I know many people who work longer than daycare is open and have trouble getting there at 6 pm. What if you offered pickup and drop off at daycare as an alternative?

                            Definitely ask around at church. Also suggest you can watch kids at night if a couple would like a date night! Or weekends if they want to run errands for say 2-3 hours during the week even while your DH works, then bus it home or something.
                            LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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                            • #59
                              What about getting a job working at a daycare center? That way you could be around your child and pull in an income at the same time?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by workingmamma View Post
                                Yes this is young to have a baby but that does not make her a irresponsible person. Bet if you ask alot of people on here they could have been in the same boat!

                                With that said I just want to say how proud I am of you to be only 19 and working to get and stay out of debt. I know alot of 19 year olds who only live life no tom. so congrats and I hope you reach your goals.

                                Do you work or only your husband? You might consider working part time at home just to help out. I have been working for 4 years from home and don't make as much as hubby but mine pays for the groceries, formula and diapers!

                                I understand your frustration on finding a legit work at home job. I have been doing this for almost 5 years and I could tell story after story on scams but I can also tell you that I now use a great database that has thousands of leads that are no money required leads and they are legit. I love it because it not only gave me the leads but has live customer support if needed. If interested I would be glad to help you get set up with the database. Just send me a message and I will send you all the information.

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