Let's talk supplements you take & how much you spent?

[QuarterMillionMan]

Cardiac ketone body metabolism

3.2.1 Medium chain triglycerides


Medium chain triglyceride (MCTs) are a family of triacylglycerols containing medium chain fatty acids (MCFA), 6–12 carbon length aliphatic chains, including C6:0 (caproic), C8:0 (caprylic), C10:0 (capric), and C12:0 (lauric) fatty acids. Dietary sources include coconut oil and palm kernel oil. They are absorbed in the portal blood and are freely oxidised for hepatic ketogenesis [166,167]. MCT diets (MCTD) can effectively increase blood ketones levels to 1 to 2 mM in humans [168,169],

Related to the fasting thread, my next supplemental intake may include MCT pills which is made from pure coconut oils which can increase blood ketones levels and promote better mitochondria functioning.

[JoeP]

My take on multivitamins is a one/daily can't really hurt if your doctor doesn't see any harm either. I also don't understand the people who take handfuls of supplements unless they've identified a specific deficiency which can't be helped through a nutritious diet. Other than my vitamin, I don't want to be on any pills. When I get put on a pill for something, the goal is to fix whatever is wrong and get off that pill as quickly as possible.

Same here. If you have a deficiency or condition where your body cannot extract or synthesize critical nutrients, then a doctor would be the one to address this through diet, supplement, or medication. When I go down the supplement aisle at a supermarket, I'm blown away by the quantity and price of choices. Without exaggeration, I'd estimate my local Wegmans has well over 700 different supplements to choose from.

[ua_guy]

My take on multivitamins is a one/daily can't really hurt if your doctor doesn't see any harm either. I also don't understand the people who take handfuls of supplements unless they've identified a specific deficiency which can't be helped through a nutritious diet. Other than my vitamin, I don't want to be on any pills. When I get put on a pill for something, the goal is to fix whatever is wrong and get off that pill as quickly as possible.

[myrdale]

I hesitate to think how much of this is real and how much is psychosomatic.

I think alot of it is.

I've given the example of my cousin who I watched her vitamin routine years ago. She takes on the order of twenty different pills every day. Seventy five percent of those could be eliminated with a single good multi vitamin.

I think Omega 3 vitamins are great for you. But do I want to take a handful every day or make it a point to eat salmon at least once a week instead.

[JoeP]

The only supplement I take is a multivitamin every morning. I trust my annual bloodwork provides my doctor with the data needed for him to make recommendations. I honestly feel less than half my age, and ache only after extended physical activity.

A friend of mine (very active retired with aches and pains) is on a kick to try pretty much anything anyone recommends. He even showed me a product he gets through a guy through another guy, supposed to be some sort of miracle supplement that cures all kinds of issues: inflammation, sore joints, back pain, etc. It came in a sophisticated box that looked medical and important. He said it worked great and that even his doctor said it was ok to take. My guess is that it is mostly OTC pain reliever mixed with a few herbs. I hesitate to think how much of this is real and how much is psychosomatic.

[myrdale]

I'm grateful to still be able to answer no, not an issue.

My understanding was it is strikingly proportional to age. 20% of men in their 20's, 50% of men in their 50's, 70% of men in their 70's.

Diet, lifestyle, and overall activeness are the best to reduce / reverse effects. Walking and jogging being high on the list.

[myrdale]

You probably have to have a Zoom call with a licensed prescriber. They can't just sell prescription meds outright.

Then again he could just pick them up from a corner store in TJ.

[ua_guy]

This story should fit with the tenor of this weird thread. I saw my doc last week. He always has an interesting article or data to share because he knows I love the stuff. It was an annual physical so we went through all the questions, and erectile dysfunction came up. I'm grateful to still be able to answer no, not an issue. But while were on the subject he pulled up a writeup on a study done by UTMB on some pretty stunning numbers around long term tadalafil and sildenafil use (cialis and viagra). The study was 500k men over a 3 year period and the result was significant reduction in overall mortality (34%), heart attacks (27%), strokes (34%), venous thromboembolisms (21%), and...dementia (32%). Percentages are for cialis. Numbers were slightly lower for those on Viagra, but still having significant reductions. Link to the study:

https://www.utmb.edu/utmb/news-article/utmb-news/2024/11/19/study-finds-erectile-dysfunction-medications-associated-with-significant-reductions-in-deaths--cardiovascular-disease--dementia

He mentioned he'd be happy to put me on daily cialis if I wanted to be on it, given CV risk. I have family history. However, it is not Standard of Care and would not be covered by insurance. That's not really a concern, as cialis is something like <$0.30 per pill these days on the open market. I said no for now, although sex with cialis on board is a good time, not going to lie! Something to ponder though...Both the reduction in risk and the population size should be raising eyebrows--in addition to everything else!

[disneysteve]

I heard the add again. Jase Medical.

They offer prescriptions for antibiotics for emergency survival (or potentially trips to TJ)

You probably have to have a Zoom call with a licensed prescriber. They can't just sell prescription meds outright.

[myrdale]

I was surprised last week to hear a radio ad for a company that would sell you emergency antibiotics and antivirals with out a prescription. If you lived way off in the back country that might be a worth while idea, but otherwise I'd stick to a doctor.

I heard the add again. Jase Medical.

They offer prescriptions for antibiotics for emergency survival (or potentially trips to TJ)

[QuarterMillionMan]

Road rage. We don’t know why you snapped but we yield to your insanity. Go ahead of me, yikes, I’ll tap me brakes.

[EasyMoney00]

Not sure about hookers in TJ but the cellular performance institute is the real deal in TJ. They can do stem cell therapy that can't be done here in the states. Panama is another option but it's pretty far away. Its not cheap but a driver picks you up in San Diego, drives you to their facility, and you stay at the Marriott by their building.

Unfortunately, stem cell therapy is frowned upon since surgery is much more lucrative.

[QuarterMillionMan]

Menu

Take this menu in TJ, 4 piezas (pieces) of enchilladas for under $10 (today's exchange rate 19 pesos = $1 USD). I tell them to order 2 or 3 dishes and I order 2 or 3 dishes and I tell them to take home tehe remainder for their babies. I support single moms and baby mamas. Then when I see them the next time they ask if we should eat first or get entertained first. Um hello darling entertainment first, lol.

[disneysteve]

My bad, I remember now it was on American Greed on CNBC where a doctor was working w/a pharma company to push its drugs and in the end the doctor was convicted and I think the pharma company too.

Sounds like illegal kickbacks were involved. As I said, that's not allowed.

[disneysteve]

Just recently I saw on TV maybe Dateline or 60 Minutes or one of those shows they said some doctors make an extra $20,000 a year from the big pharma for pushing certain drugs.

Pharma companies will hire doctors as speakers for their products, having them present at dinners or conferences to promote the products, so docs can earn money that way. I never got big into that but I have done some over the years. It was never tied to my actual prescribing habits, though I'm sure the companies look at prescribing data when deciding who to invite to join their speaker panel. You don't want a spokesperson who never uses your product.