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  • james.hendrickson
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    Originally posted by JoeP View Post
    The Apple ecosystem is ingenious! Apple has managed to develop a solution to problems, not merely a set of "products." People who buy into it get great integration with other Apple products, as well as cutting edge features such as the camera.

    This comes at a price, literally. To be part of the club and remain in good standing, you need to pay the dues, in the form of expensive hardware and a closed ecosystem that doesn't always play well with others. For some, this is ok and they're willing to participate. For others, once they're in, it can be hard to cut the ties since they have so much invested in the ecosystem. Peer pressure is a factor as well, with a lot of teens clustering around Apple phones because Everyone Else Has One. Also, the concept of switching after years of being in one system can be intimidating, especially for those who are lower on the technology scale (any long time Windows users want to switch to Linux?), so it's just easier to stay with what's familiar and absorb the increased club fees.
    JoeP - thats correct.

    And it makes sense to hold Apple stock, not get into the apple ecosystem.

    The reality is that people will pay $1,000 for the version of an apple product that provides only a marginal improvement over previous versions. So, buy apple stock, not the latest version of whatever they're selling.

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  • JoeP
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    The Apple ecosystem is ingenious! Apple has managed to develop a solution to problems, not merely a set of "products." People who buy into it get great integration with other Apple products, as well as cutting edge features such as the camera.

    This comes at a price, literally. To be part of the club and remain in good standing, you need to pay the dues, in the form of expensive hardware and a closed ecosystem that doesn't always play well with others. For some, this is ok and they're willing to participate. For others, once they're in, it can be hard to cut the ties since they have so much invested in the ecosystem. Peer pressure is a factor as well, with a lot of teens clustering around Apple phones because Everyone Else Has One. Also, the concept of switching after years of being in one system can be intimidating, especially for those who are lower on the technology scale (any long time Windows users want to switch to Linux?), so it's just easier to stay with what's familiar and absorb the increased club fees.

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  • rennigade
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    Originally posted by Singuy View Post

    And this is how Iphone is like 25% of the total world wide phone sales but has like 70% of the revenue. Pro tip, if you ever invest, look for companies that build ecosystems and not just products.
    I believe apple is among the mix of companies my index funds invest in so I'm already ahead of the curve.

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
    I'm not much of a tech person and tend to jut keep my cell phone until it literally stops working.
    Same here. I had an iPhone 3 until they stopped supporting it so the apps stopped working. Then I had an iPhone 5 until it literally broke apart at the seams. Now I have an iPhone 7 which I've had for quite a few years. The only real issue I have with it is the battery life is fading. I've thought about replacing the battery for $60 or so rather than spending $1,000 to upgrade.

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  • mo0n
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    It's not only Apple that's doing the mandatory payment plan. I wanted to upgrade to a Samsung 21 Ultra, and could've paid for the phone upfront but AT&T wouldn't let me. So I ordered an unlocked phone from Best Buy and switched the SIM, no harm, no foul.

    But it's so bogus. So so soooo bogus.

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  • bjl584
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    I have an Android, but I did have to get a different charger than for this phone.
    I was given the option to pay in full for the phone. I'm surprised that you weren't.

    I'm not much of a tech person and tend to jut keep my cell phone until it literally stops working.
    We're coming up on 2 years with this one.
    My last one made it to 5 years before dying.

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  • ua_guy
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    Originally posted by disneysteve View Post

    We love our Apple TV for the ability to easily stream from all of our Apple devices.
    Also a built-in hardware feature of many Smart TV's these days Airplay/Airplay 2

    I still like my Apple TV too. We keep it connected to a not-smart TV.

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

    Apple TV died with the advent of internet-connected Smart TV's. Similar trajectory as Roku. Who needs an external box when the incoming feed is at least 1080p these days, and there are native apps in the TV that run Netflix and other streaming services.
    We love our Apple TV for the ability to easily stream from all of our Apple devices.

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  • ua_guy
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    Originally posted by srblanco7 View Post

    This is definitely where Apple has excelled, at least historically, with the ipod and itunes, the iphone/ipad and the app store, etc. They created an ecosystem that was, in general, easy to use. A few cracks in that foundation of late - with streaming services and court challenges to the app store model. They haven't really succeeded with Apple TV - or perhaps at least not yet. Interested to see what the future holds for Apple or perhaps better said, interested to see where Apple tries to take us in the future.
    Apple TV died with the advent of internet-connected Smart TV's. Similar trajectory as Roku. Who needs an external box when the incoming feed is at least 1080p these days, and there are native apps in the TV that run Netflix and other streaming services.

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  • srblanco7
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    Originally posted by Singuy View Post

    Pro tip, if you ever invest, look for companies that build ecosystems and not just products.
    This is definitely where Apple has excelled, at least historically, with the ipod and itunes, the iphone/ipad and the app store, etc. They created an ecosystem that was, in general, easy to use. A few cracks in that foundation of late - with streaming services and court challenges to the app store model. They haven't really succeeded with Apple TV - or perhaps at least not yet. Interested to see what the future holds for Apple or perhaps better said, interested to see where Apple tries to take us in the future.

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  • Singuy
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    Originally posted by rennigade View Post

    Once you're in the apple ecosystem it's hard to get out of. The rut gets deeper and deeper the longer you're in it. Most people would rather not learn a new OS.
    And this is how Iphone is like 25% of the total world wide phone sales but has like 70% of the revenue. Pro tip, if you ever invest, look for companies that build ecosystems and not just products.

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  • rennigade
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    Originally posted by scfr View Post
    Did you consider alternatives before deciding to buy the iPhone?
    Once you're in the apple ecosystem it's hard to get out of. The rut gets deeper and deeper the longer you're in it. Most people would rather not learn a new OS.

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  • scfr
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    Did you consider alternatives before deciding to buy the iPhone?

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  • myrdale
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    I am confused by what the $267 is? Is this this a down payment or a setup charge?

    I would absolutely push back against not being able to pay in full.

    The cord situation drives me nuts as well. And this isn't going away. Someone will always have a new "better" proprietary connector.

    Lastly, don't forget your local repair shops. Earlier this year I paid about $80 for a new battery, rather than $1,000 for a new phone. I am not suggesting you do that indefinitely, but it can save you a significant amount of money if you believe there is still useful life in your device.



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  • LivingAlmostLarge
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    Ugh I hate the fact apple has different chargers than the rest of the world. Everyone else is moving to USB C. Kinda like their dumb wireless mouse. It charges by plugging into the bottom so you can't use it while you charge. Um....okay.

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