Stores and restaurants re-closing due to COVID

[ua_guy]

My county, which is very rural, is going to level purple on Thursday (the highest level of restriction in California).

Washington State just announced new restrictions on Sunday.

Thanksgiving is officially cancelled- mandate of no social gatherings indoors with people outside one’s household. Indoor dining, bars, shut down. Gyms, shut down. Retail at 25% capacity, gatherings no more than 5 people anywhere.

[disneysteve]

Washington State just announced new restrictions on Sunday.

Thanksgiving is officially cancelled- mandate of no social gatherings indoors with people outside one’s household. Indoor dining, bars, shut down. Gyms, shut down. Retail at 25% capacity, gatherings no more than 5 people anywhere.

Pretty much the same as what Philadelphia just did.

No impact to us if it happens here as we haven't been doing any of those things anyway because they aren't safe, even if they were allowed. We have done some normal shopping (Target, Walmart) but we've mostly been ordering online for curbside pickup. If Jersey shuts down again, it won't bother us a bit.

[kork13]

More potentially good news... Results from a recent study indicates that COVID immunity may actually last for multiple years. The study hasn't been peer-reviewed or formally published yet, but promising all the same.

[disneysteve]

One of my colleagues had our first case of flu yesterday. And so it begins. Our first ever COVID/Flu season. This should be fun .

[QuarterMillionMan]

Los Angeles Nov 1, 1500 new case, Nov 18 4000 new cases. If 5 day average goes above 4000 new cases a day lock downs will be mandated. Today California implemented curfews beginning Nov 21 from 10:00 pm thru 5:00 am. Bummers. And lines are forming again outside of grocery stores and cleaning supplies & TP are sold out again.

[QuarterMillionMan]

New cases in Los Angeles went from 4000 to 6000 new case a day. Los Angeles will no longer allow indoor or outdoor restaurant dining beginning on Wednesday. In addition, another round of lock downs may be forthcoming, bummers.

[amarowsky]

One of my colleagues had our first case of flu yesterday. And so it begins. Our first ever COVID/Flu season. This should be fun .

Got my flu shot last week.

Unfortunately.... My grandparents also contracted COVID last wednesday (18th). THey're 82 & 80 respectfully (gramps & grannie). Grandpa is hit harder, w/ heavy flu like symptoms (fatigue that feels like a small car ran over you, light headed, w/ loss of hunger) Thank goodness he has no breathing related symptoms (i consider this a win so far). Grannie seemed to be more fortunate w/ only allergy like symptoms that have already subsided. From what I hear... Thursday (8/9 day mark) is supposed to be the most rough. From the feedback from my grandparents, he is feeling slightly better yesterday.

Nervous for them... They're basically my "other parents". Them and my mom raised my bro and I, and I lost mom 6 years back. Really want these 2 to stick around for a while..... I owe them a few grandkids.

[amarowsky]

Totally forgot to mention - Michigan also has enacted a form of lockdown. Sounds like no more dining inside places, w/ Carry out being the only option for the time being. Also noticed a lot of stores have to close at 10pm.

EDIT: Added = Schools (UNI and Grammer) i'm pretty sure are all remote now. My brother is a teacher @ Wayne state Uni & 2 of the community colleges around Detroit, I believe they stayed online the whole time. But some of the other schools, who were attempting Hybrid, I think were eventually overrun by new cases.

It's a bit prohibitive, but allows for most commerce to keep on going. I think it's acceptable considering the situation. My friends and I just broke up the plans for our "Night Of So Much Turkey" in Traverse city ( a formerly long living tradition to be held in person). We're adapting best we can. Hope everyone can stay safe out there....

[disneysteve]

amarowsky, best wishes to your grandparents. Covid is a nasty disease, especially for older folks but for young people too.

I really wish people would take this thing seriously because millions just don't. The airports have been packed this week with people traveling for the holiday. It's insane, irresponsible, and dangerous. No family gathering is so important that it's worth risking everyone's life.

I saw a story yesterday out of Texas. A family had a "small" birthday party. 12 people attended. All 12 plus 3 other family members who weren't there ended up testing positive for Covid in the days following the party. That included one pregnant woman and one person who had to be hospitalized for over a week. Just because they were all tired of not seeing each other and figured it would be safe. IT'S NOT!

Please, please, please do not gather for Thanksgiving (or any other time) with people who don't live in your house.

I'm seeing Covid patients every day at work and the stories of how there were exposed almost always include people not following that rule.

[ua_guy]

We lost a family member to Covid recently. My great aunt and uncle got it at the same time. They were independent and living in their own home. Both of them were hospitalized. His condition worsened and he passed about 2 weeks ago. She turned the corner and was discharged, but she is now fully dependent and requires caregivers in her home 24/7. No longer has the strength to walk or perform daily activities. Our family, specifically my mom, who is in her 70's, is trying to manage her care from two states away. The sad thing is, my great aunt denies she and Jerry ever had covid. I do not understand, but at this point, it's not important.

My mom was still hanging on to the idea that her and dad would gather for Thanksgiving with my husband and I, keep it small, because we've all been safe, right? This last weekend I was the horrible son who ruined the holidays and told her out of respect for Jerry we should not gather. It's just a meal. Just a day. Next year will be that much better. I'm seriously pissed at my sister who is having her in-laws come over. They are all planning to get covid tests this week. No, no, no, that's not how this works. Dr. Fauci says no, and our local testing sites say DO NOT come to us to get a covid test for this purpose. They have massive waits and cannot get tests to people who have a critical need, for their health or employment. Gathering is elective, it can wait. My sister is incredibly smart, but this is part denial and her in-laws are pressuring her to gather. My directive to her is, fine, do what you want in your own house, but DO NOT get anywhere near our parents for the 14 days following.

We are just a few months to weeks away from vaccine distribution; let's not blow the last 9 months of being safe. All the local news and radio stations are urging people to stay home and only gather with household/pod members.

[QuarterMillionMan]

Condolences for the lost of your loved one and prayers for speedy recoveries. I don't know anyone personally afflicted with COVID but these stories makes me open my eyes.

Edit: change lost to loss, correct spelling is important.

[cypher1]

I really wish people would take this thing seriously because millions just don't. The airports have been packed this week with people traveling for the holiday. It's insane, irresponsible, and dangerous. No family gathering is so important that it's worth risking everyone's life.

Which ones? I just got back from LAX last night, and never seen that location and MSP so empty. I even had the whole row to myself coming home.

I was also in Vegas for the weekend. While some areas in downtown were busier, everyone was wearing masks. Most were requiring thermal scans/ID checks when entering, and if temp was 100 (or 99?) they'd deny entry. Casino managers or pit bosses were getting others to stay 6 feet away if they were not gambling at a table. Same goes for hiking in Vegas and Los Angeles, everyone wore masks on the trails and there were no crowds.

[kork13]

COVID is now spreading like wildfire out here. Probably 20% of my unit is now either positive & in quarantine, or in proactive quarantine due to exposure to a positive cases. It's driving us crazy, trying to keep our operations afloat while getting hamstrung with people getting out into quarantine.

.... DW (and her parents) are all but pleading for her parents to come up for Thanksgiving. DW's birthday is this Sunday, so the plan has been to have them come up for Thanksgiving then they watch the boys while we take a night or two for ourselves. ............. I'm really struggling between just letting them come up & hoping it's no factor, or putting my foot down & say it's not a good idea. It's just the two of them, and neither are sick at all... But obviously, that doesn't really mean much in this case. It also doesn't help that FIL is apparently a firm believer in "COVID is a scam."

::sigh::

[LivingAlmostLarge]

COVID is now spreading like wildfire out here. Probably 20% of my unit is now either positive & in quarantine, or in proactive quarantine due to exposure to a positive cases. It's driving us crazy, trying to keep our operations afloat while getting hamstrung with people getting out into quarantine.

.... DW (and her parents) are all but pleading for her parents to come up for Thanksgiving. DW's birthday is this Sunday, so the plan has been to have them come up for Thanksgiving then they watch the boys while we take a night or two for ourselves. ............. I'm really struggling between just letting them come up & hoping it's no factor, or putting my foot down & say it's not a good idea. It's just the two of them, and neither are sick at all... But obviously, that doesn't really mean much in this case. It also doesn't help that FIL is apparently a firm believer in "COVID is a scam."

::sigh::

How are they planning on coming up? I'm allowing my BIL to fly and see us. Nothing we can say appears to dissuade him. So it is what it is. He got a test on Friday and his girlfriend. Oh well.

[disneysteve]

Which ones?

TSA reported over 1 million travelers on Sunday, the highest one-day total since early March. I saw a news story yesterday showing the crowds at Phoenix and one other airport I don't recall. I just spoke to my cousin in South Florida. He said their local news just had a story about the crowds at Ft. Lauderdale.

It's happening all over the country. People are throwing caution to the wind so they can spend the holiday with their families. We're all going to pay for it over the next 2 weeks. And then it will be as bad or worse after Christmas.