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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    NYC this week, https://abc7ny.com/protesters-clash-...jured/6318496/

    Portland this week, https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...deral-arrests/

    Chicago yesterday, https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/18...s2iA56jqpZkKRI

    Los Angeles still has protests but fortunately nothing yet. Wish the violence would stop but I fear it'll only get worse.

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by Petunia 100 View Post

    To be fair, most of the state is sparsely populated.
    Definitely. That’s why many states didn’t see super high numbers. They just don’t have that many people. But the more rural areas are now seeing their COVID cases rise. They just lagged behind the urban areas. And as travel picks back up, cases will continue to spread including to areas that had been relatively spared.

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    Originally posted by james.hendrickson View Post

    I think whats going on is the quarantines caused social and economic disruption, then the George Floyd murder set people off. I did a shallow dive on the literature on rioting and the results were classic. High unemployment in urban areas is a significant risk factor for rioting.

    As an aside, this is going to be very, very expensive. Even a small riot can cost over $50 Million in property damage. Some estimates say this week of violence could cost up to 5 trillion dollars.

    Source: The L.A. Riot and the Economics of Urban Unrest
    Good points. This Sun article explains anti-facism which says it is our nation's DNA, which could also explain the looting and riots.

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2020/ju...r-nations-dna/

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  • Petunia 100
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    Originally posted by disneysteve View Post

    And I believe Clark County, where Las Vegas is, already had the highest COVID numbers in the state. Get ready for those numbers to climb now that the casinos are open with minimal precautions in place.

    Cases are on the rise in a number of places as things reopen. Arkansas has the most hospitalized COVID patients right now since the pandemic began. Cases are rising in Texas and elsewhere. NJ will add outdoor dining and indoor retail on 6/15 and then salons and barbers on 6/22 so I'm sure we'll start seeing an uptick in new cases by the end of the month.
    To be fair, most of the state is sparsely populated.

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  • james.hendrickson
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    Originally posted by bjl584 View Post

    Sounds similar to the mass protests right after Trump was elected.

    I wonder how many of those people are genuinely there for a cause and how many are there just to be there?
    I remember a reporter asking the younger people protesting when Trump was elected their thoughts on matters.
    Time and time again they responded that they didn't even vote in the election.
    I think whats going on is the quarantines caused social and economic disruption, then the George Floyd murder set people off. I did a shallow dive on the literature on rioting and the results were classic. High unemployment in urban areas is a significant risk factor for rioting.

    As an aside, this is going to be very, very expensive. Even a small riot can cost over $50 Million in property damage. Some estimates say this week of violence could cost up to 5 trillion dollars.

    Source: The L.A. Riot and the Economics of Urban Unrest

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by QuarterMillionMan View Post
    On another note Las Vegas opened today (not riot related) but watch this video and see how busy Las Vegas is on reopening with no social distancing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3jwXNNmkNM
    And I believe Clark County, where Las Vegas is, already had the highest COVID numbers in the state. Get ready for those numbers to climb now that the casinos are open with minimal precautions in place.

    Cases are on the rise in a number of places as things reopen. Arkansas has the most hospitalized COVID patients right now since the pandemic began. Cases are rising in Texas and elsewhere. NJ will add outdoor dining and indoor retail on 6/15 and then salons and barbers on 6/22 so I'm sure we'll start seeing an uptick in new cases by the end of the month.

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    Los Angeles curfews lifted due to relative calm but individual cities in Los Angeles still have curfews. The kicker is Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti is reducing LAPD's budget by $150 million and increasing social services by $250, which makes no sense to me. On another note Las Vegas opened today (not riot related) but watch this video and see how busy Las Vegas is on reopening with no social distancing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3jwXNNmkNM

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  • bjl584
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    Originally posted by james.hendrickson View Post
    All the protestors here in Oregon are pretty young - they're mostly under 30 and white.
    Sounds similar to the mass protests right after Trump was elected.

    I wonder how many of those people are genuinely there for a cause and how many are there just to be there?
    I remember a reporter asking the younger people protesting when Trump was elected their thoughts on matters.
    Time and time again they responded that they didn't even vote in the election.

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  • amastewa93
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    Things have largely calmed down here in Atlanta but they expect it to pick back up this weekend. We have a curfew in effect through Sunday, potentially longer if protests continue through this weekend.

    Last weekend, within a 2 mile radius of my home, there was between $10 and $15 million worth of damage (and that is just the early estimate). Monday morning it didn't feel very safe to even leave my home. Thankfully, it feels more safe now but I'm hoping the peace continues.

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    Originally posted by james.hendrickson View Post
    Today is the 3rd day of mass protests here in Oregon. So far everythings been mostly peaceful but we'll see how it goes.

    All the protestors here in Oregon are pretty young - they're mostly under 30 and white.
    Let's hope it remains peaceful. Those riots & looting are scary.

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  • james.hendrickson
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    Today is the 3rd day of mass protests here in Oregon. So far everythings been mostly peaceful but we'll see how it goes.

    All the protestors here in Oregon are pretty young - they're mostly under 30 and white.

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    Los Angeles has a very large protest in downtown which is peaceful but I worry it could be a powder keg. I estimate the size to be about a full stadium maybe 50,000 people. It is 6:15 pm and curfew will be in place at 9:00 pm or 10:00 pm. BTW no social distancing. These protests marked the unofficial end of COVID which could lead to skyrocketing new COVID cases.

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  • ~bs
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    Originally posted by QuarterMillionMan View Post
    The cops should go under cover and blend in with the looters and once the hammers come out to smash the glass make the arrests and take them down.
    Cops actually do this.... There's videos of there of previous incidences and current ones where the cops were called out.

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  • james.hendrickson
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    Totally - there are lots of reasonable policy proposals that aren't part of the narrative now. Like mandatory firings of officers who have too many complaints, mandatory body cameras or tougher local oversight of police forces. Also, frankly we might revisit refunding some useful Federal programs, like Homeland security grants to improve officer use of force training, or things like that.

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
    It's a shame that the peaceful protesters are being completely drowned out by the anarchists and the needless violence and destruction.
    The peaceful protesters' messages are lost and zero change will occur.
    Yes, it's so important to realize the actual protestors are just as opposed to the rioting as everyone else.

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