Is your city rioting?

[QuarterMillionMan]

The protests are spreading to Santa Ana which is about 30 miles south of DTLA in Orange County just south of LA county. Wednesday is my report to office day in DTLA and I will check my work email and hopefully my Admin says to work from home. These protests are growing like a cancer.

[QuarterMillionMan]

I wonder who is funding their actions?

Neville Roy Singman.

[Fishindude77]

Glad to see law enforcement and national guard doing their best to minimize property damage.
Minneapolis will never be the same after all the rioting and destruction in that city a few years ago. It forced a lot of good people (and their money) to move away and the rioters wiped out their own neighborhoods and now have no place left in their neighborhood to shop or do business.
Pretty insane !

[QuarterMillionMan]

Each Waymo Jaguar SUV cost $160,000 each x 5 = $800,000. No one yet has been arrested for burning those cars. Waymo suspended service in those areas.

[ua_guy]

Deployment cost for the National Guard is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of rebuilding a city which is burned to the ground. This was a wise policy decision which will save millions of dollars in the long run by protecting private property from destruction.

On the other hand, it's possible the confrontation could have been avoided completely. And so far we're just touched on the hard costs. The deployment, the property destruction. This isn't even mentioning the legal suits which will result, the lost wages for people who can't work and businesses shut down due to the activity. Like so many things, this was completely avoidable with some strategic planning and forethought.

[QuarterMillionMan]

I just passed my Home Depot where usually 20 day laborers would be on the sidewalk waiting for jobs today 0 guys.

[myrdale]

Most of the violence/property damage are paid bad/actors.

I wonder who is funding their actions?

[myrdale]

Deployment cost for the National Guard is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of rebuilding a city which is burned to the ground. This was a wise policy decision which will save millions of dollars in the long run by protecting private property from destruction.

[james.hendrickson]

I can only imagine the taxpayer expense of deploying the National Guard for such an activity. Could there have been a quieter and more targeted approach as to not attract national media and focus and still accomplish the objectives, while minimizing expense?

I'm with you 100% on this. The direct cost of deploying thousands of soldiers, plus the cost of insurance for all the damage, plus clean up after all this is done, plus lost productivity costs, plus the costs of treating all the injured people, plus the long term decline in real estate values in impacted areas has got to be enormous.

I do wonder if maybe ICE shouldn't take a different approach towards immigration enforcement - policy should not result in these kinds of massive problems.

[ua_guy]

I want to point out that civil disturbances like this can be insanely expensive. The 1965 riots in Washington DC cost about 179 million, and the civil disturbance around George Floyd was easily 1 to 2 Billion.

I can only imagine the taxpayer expense of deploying the National Guard for such an activity. Could there have been a quieter and more targeted approach as to not attract national media and focus and still accomplish the objectives, while minimizing expense?

[QuarterMillionMan]

This short video shows the Waymo cars being set on fire. The news this morning is showing 5 Waymo cars burnt to the ground.

Cars burn during LA riots

[james.hendrickson]

I want to point out that civil disturbances like this can be insanely expensive. The 1965 riots in Washington DC cost about 179 million, and the civil disturbance around George Floyd was easily 1 to 2 Billion.

[disneysteve]

Keep your political comments, on both sides, out of your replies or the thread will be gone soon.

[disneysteve]

Oh, I totally agree with you -- I'm fully supportive of the right to protest, as long as it stays peaceful & respects the similar rights of other citizens. It's also part of the whole "support & defend the constitution" thing that I've had drilled into me over the years. If you think protesting will make a meaningful impact & is a worthwhile use of your time, go for it. There has just never been a public issue that I've felt so deeply about that would bring me to waste hours or days of my life chanting slogans on somebody's lawn about it.

I'm also just very cynical about the effectiveness of most protests. Sure, it'll raise awareness if it gets big enough to draw media attention (for however long that lasts) ... but how much change will come about based on "awareness"? I'd argue relatively little, because politics & policy in the US are rarely based on ideas & rationality & logic ... it's all just brinksmanship & party loyalty. And if/when it turns violent/riotous, it's no longer about issues or ideas, it's just raw emotion & aggression, and utterly destructive to ... everything.

The civil rights movement is a fine example of progress from protest.

[disneysteve]

Setting a car on fire is not a protest it's a riot.

I agree, and I said the same in that I don't support or condone violence or property destruction.