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  • JoshuaHeckathorn
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    Originally posted by littleroc02us View Post
    So you believe that if there were two people and one used a credit card to buy something and the other paid cash and they both lost their jobs that the credit card user wouldn't be in more trouble? That ridiculous. The cash payer wouldn't have any debt on the transaction, but the cc user would still have that debt hanging over his head. Big difference!

    The credit card user wouldn't be in any more trouble. I, like the others that support responsible credit card use here, only buy in a given month what we already have the cash to pay for when the bill is due.

    The only difference would be that the cash would be in my bank account longer than the person that paid cash up front. The credit card user still wins.

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  • littleroc02us
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    Originally posted by MonkeyMama View Post
    I strongly disagree that I take on more risk using a credit card. Sure, if I ran up debt, paid late, etc. These are all things that are easy enough to avoid if you can take any personal responsibility or exert some self-control.

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    So you believe that if there were two people and one used a credit card to buy something and the other paid cash and they both lost their jobs that the credit card user wouldn't be in more trouble? That ridiculous. The cash payer wouldn't have any debt on the transaction, but the cc user would still have that debt hanging over his head. Big difference!

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  • MonkeyMama
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    Originally posted by AtoZ View Post
    Credit cards are not the problem people believe them to be - it is the inability to manage them that causes problems. if you can manage the payment and be sure you are getting the best rewards, etc. then by all means use them. if credit cards have caused you trouble try something else.
    Precisely.

    I personally use credit cards for rewards. When interest rates were higher I took 0% balance transfers and invested the money in CDs (earning 5%-6%).

    I've never borrowed a cent on a credit card that I didn't have the cash to pay back. IT's really that simple.

    If that's hard to manage, don't use a credit card. I am just tired of being told it is impossible to use credit cards responsibly. Because it isn't.

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  • MonkeyMama
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    Originally posted by littleroc02us View Post
    I like to call it the risk and no risk options.
    For irresponsible users, neither idea works because you just have problems managing money.
    I've had a credit card for almost 20 years and have never paid a cent of interest or any type of fee. I know when my credit card payment is due - I don't need a bill in the mail to remind me.

    Likewise, I don't need to use cold hard cash to control my spending.

    I strongly disagree that I take on more risk using a credit card. Sure, if I ran up debt, paid late, etc. These are all things that are easy enough to avoid if you can take any personal responsibility or exert some self-control.

    I suppose I Am so annoyed at the idea that people just can't take that responsibility. That it is just too impossible to pay their bills on time.

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  • littleroc02us
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    This issue is discussed over and over again on this forum. Basically there are 2 train of thought for the responsible user. I like to call it the risk and no risk options. The risk option is to use credit cards for everything and while most of these users will say they keep track easily of each expense when the card is used, I don't believe it because in some studies they have shown that a credit card user actually spends more then they would with cash. The risk also comes into play if you mail your payment and they don't get it and then you have to fight the late payment. Or if you lose your job then you have debt on your card that you have to figure out how to pay off.
    The less risky way is to use a debit card where if your a responsible user you keep a budget and balance your checkbook, where you spend the money immediately and it is deducted from your checking account. With my debit card if I were to go over the limit, no problem because it just transfers money to cover the expense from my savings account. With a credit card if you go over your limit you get a fee.

    For irresponsible users, neither idea works because you just have problems managing money.

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  • AtoZ
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    Credit cards are not the problem people believe them to be - it is the inability to manage them that causes problems. if you can manage the payment and be sure you are getting the best rewards, etc. then by all means use them. if credit cards have caused you trouble try something else.

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  • kork13
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    Likewise with DS and minnie. I use my credit card whenever it's an option. Every month I get $20+ from cash back rewards on my credit card on all of the stuff that I need for daily life. I say "why not get the cash back?" Yes, some people just can't control their spending. But if you have the ability to know what you can/can't afford, there's no reason not to take advantage of what's available. just my opinion...

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  • minnie1928
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    Originally posted by Frugal View Post
    Do you think credit cards are a useful to, or a hazard to budgets to AVOID?
    I just re-read this line and wanted to share this. Several years ago, before interest rates tanked and balance transfer check fees went through the roof, I used to borrow money on my credit card for the sole purpose of earning a spread on the interest. So, for example, I would borrow $10,000 from Chase at 0% for 6 months. I would take that $10,000 and send it to HSBC and deposit it to earn 2.5%. As the 6mth promotion was nearly finished, I would withdraw the $10,000 and pay off Chase. This scenario would earn me about $125 with very little work/time invested.

    Sadly, interest rates and fees don't make this worthwhile anymore

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  • minnie1928
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    Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
    We use our reward credit cards for everything we possibly can - gas, groceries, dining out, clothes shopping, travel, paying household bills, anything and everything. Why pay cash and get nothing in return when we can use the credit card and get cash back and points toward our reward program?

    With credit cards, we get a very nice record of our spending each month plus our Chase cards give us a year-end summary which is great for budgeting review.

    If we used a debit card for all of the transactions, we'd constantly be recording them in the account register. This way, we only have to record the monthly bill payment, so one transaction vs. 20 or 30 transactions to record.

    All of that said, if you are the type of person who would be tempted to overspend or you would charge more than you could afford to pay in full each month, then you shouldn't be using a credit card. Credit cards should only be used by people who have a good firm handle on their spending habits and their personal finances.
    I second all of this. We use our cards for everything we can, pay them off each month and earn easily over $500 cash/year doing it plus points for air travel/hotel/etc. I never pay interest and since I budget my spending each month, I never overspend.

    However, I am a bit more anal about my finances than DS. I still make every entry to Quicken for every purchase, but I would do that if I was using a debit card too. So, in my world, using my credit card is the same amount of work as a credit card.

    But, this doesn't work for everyone. Credit cards have never been a problem for me, so I feel very comfortable doing this. My mother on the other hand can't be trusted to have a credit card, so she uses her debit card. Each person should know what their limits are and work within them.

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  • disneysteve
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    We use our reward credit cards for everything we possibly can - gas, groceries, dining out, clothes shopping, travel, paying household bills, anything and everything. Why pay cash and get nothing in return when we can use the credit card and get cash back and points toward our reward program?

    With credit cards, we get a very nice record of our spending each month plus our Chase cards give us a year-end summary which is great for budgeting review.

    If we used a debit card for all of the transactions, we'd constantly be recording them in the account register. This way, we only have to record the monthly bill payment, so one transaction vs. 20 or 30 transactions to record.

    All of that said, if you are the type of person who would be tempted to overspend or you would charge more than you could afford to pay in full each month, then you shouldn't be using a credit card. Credit cards should only be used by people who have a good firm handle on their spending habits and their personal finances.

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  • Frugal
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    Credit cards vs. Debit Cards

    What is your opinion on using credit cards when you don't absolutely have to, in order to get a Cash Back amount each month or quarterly period? I like to avoid using credit cards at all costs, but my family member likes to use them for everything from gas to groceries to paying the utility bill, all in order to save a little money and get anywhere from 1-5% cash back each month.

    Do you think credit cards are a useful to, or a hazard to budgets to AVOID?

    I personally prefer using a debit card, because the funds come out right away, and I can better track my expenditures each day online. Plus, there is less temptation to spend extra, and run up a balance that is beyond my means to pay, and accrues interest each month it is not paid in full.
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