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Old 03-13-2007, 06:04 AM
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Well....I ran a budget and realized that I'm not as bad off as I thought I was...but still not where I want to be.

We make enough money to pay for all the regular monthly bills including groceries (on a strict budget), and gas for the vehicles. What we do not make enough money for is the extras.....lunch money (I try to make sure everyone packs a lunch), extra medical bills, car repair, upkeep of house, etc...... So what I did (tell me if I'm wrong!!) was set up an account to pay the regular monthly bills only. Nothing else gets written out of that account. I will deposit enough money per month to pay those bills. Then I am rounding up everything I can possibly sell and am going to list those items on Ebay. The extra money will go towards the extra expenses that come in and hopefully towards paying off one of the monthly bills. My husband is also looking to supplement the income by doing odd jobs for people. He paints, remodels houses, can fix anything, etc....

I like all the ideas each of you gave me. I plan on checking out what employee discounts Wal*Mart and Meijer offer. I have always been interested in the medical field so I will look into taking a few classes (to start). I've actually been pushing my kids towards the medical field due to insurance coverage and demand. My daughter is planning on being a ultra-sound tech....possibly majoring in pediatric echocardiograms. My son is planning on being a Physical Therapists. I only know office work so with a few classes in medical terminology and insurance billing, I may be able to get a better paying job at the hospital or doctor's office. Thanks for making me think about that.

As for the budget.....it includes mortgage, cable/internet (which I plan on shutting off which will save me $89/month), cell phones (we don't have a home phone and with one kid driving and the other one diabetic, I'm having issues with getting rid of them), insurance, electric, heat, water, trash, car payment, credit card debt (I've destroyed these and turned them over to credit solutions), orthodontist, groceries and gas for vehicles. I don't have my list in front of me so I'm sure I'm forgetting something. But that's the bulk of it. The big bills are the mortgage, cc debt and car payment. I've thought about getting rid of the car but I'm not sure (haven't researched it) if I could get enough money out of the car to buy another one (for cash).

Thank you to each of you that responded to my pleas for help. You've each given me some great insight.

Feel free to let me know what you think about my budget...do you need more info? We bring home $885/week. The monthly bills (including gas and groceries and saving $50/month) came to about $860/week. Like I said....it leaves nothing for the extras. I am behind on 3 bills and have one doctor bill left that I have not included in the monthly budget. I am hoping to make enough extra money to cover those items.

Please let me know if I'm on the wrong track!!!!

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:24 AM
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2manybills:

it sounds like you're off to a great start, congrats!

i just wanted to point out a few things. one, i know you might not be comfortable with the thought of selling some of the things you own, but i promise you that once you start it starts to feel almost freeing in a way. you realize just how much money you've spent on 'stuff' over the years, and it makes you really think about the money you spend going forwards. and if you're anything like me, chances are really good you won't even notice most things once they're gone. it's nice to be able to clear our some stuff even when you aren't doing it for the money. with spring coming *which means yard sales and outdoor markets!), you might be able to move a lot of merchandise over the next few months.

i also like the fact that you've worked your budget down to the week. you said you have 885 in income and 860 in bills, right? save that extra $15 per week for now, that's $780 per year! cutting the cable sounds like that'll be another $1068 per year. suddenly, those savings don't look too small, do they?

also, i didn't see in your post if you are saving $ for your homeowner's insurance and property taxes (if applicable) or if they're included in your mortgage payment. if they're included, then no worries. if not, you'll likely want to add them as a monthly line item.

and now for the "if i were you" part

having the expenses covered is half the battle, so again congrats. you said you're no longer going to use the credit cards, right? in that case, some sort of emergency funds are realy important, so you might want to decide with your husband what you'd be comfortable with. take into consideration the unemployment laws in your area, etc. you might want to start small, a couple hundred dollars, or you might want to start for a whole month's worth of expenses. whatever you decide on, save your monthly surplus AND the money you bring in selling items towards that goal. it'll add up, i promise!

you also might want to consider things you can do to add some income quick, just to meet the goals you're setting. a part-time job like you discussed is always an option, or something like baby-sitting, running errands, delivering newspapers in the morning, etc. it'll make creating that month's worth of emergency fund that much easier.

then, when you have a bit of money stashed for a rainy day (woohoo!), tackle your first debt. it could be the lowest balance, the highest interest rate, or the highest monthly payment. highest interest rate usually makes the most 'cents', but it might not bring the feeling of satisfaction and accomplishment that a easily paid off bill could bring, so decide in your household which one to tackle.

once you're at this point, the whole thing starts to snowball! good luck!!!
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:00 AM
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Thank you....I really like the idea of saving up an emergency fund first and then tackling the extra bills. Since you never know what life is going to hand you, that definately makes sense.

I did include insurance in my budget. I grouped it altogether but it includes house, car and life insurance. The taxes are included in the mortgage payment.

Thank you for the advice. I am taking everyone's advice into consideration and making new plans. Now I just need to determine a goal date for when I'll no longer be in debt!!
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:12 AM
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I like all the ideas each of you gave me. I plan on checking out what employee discounts Wal*Mart and Meijer offer. I have always been interested in the medical field so I will look into taking a few classes (to start). I've actually been pushing my kids towards the medical field due to insurance coverage and demand. My daughter is planning on being a ultra-sound tech....possibly majoring in pediatric echocardiograms. My son is planning on being a Physical Therapists. I only know office work so with a few classes in medical terminology and insurance billing, I may be able to get a better paying job at the hospital or doctor's office. Thanks for making me think about that.

Don't go for a doctor's office - we pay squat - just ask DisneySteve or I.

If you get employed at a hospital, you'll generally have access to matching 403(b)'s (I think they are the non-profit analog of 401(k)'s) and at least you can start to build some wealth vs. just scrape by. Sometimes pensions are still available too. Start thinking long term as well as the good short term ideas here.

If you have an interest in health care, I would take some direction from your kids on that. A PT is a fairly long program (6 to 8 years) and probably beyond your grasp right now. . .but an LPN isn't. An EKG tech. isn't. A phlebotomist isn't. Surgical tech. isn't.

And "getting in" in an entry level health care position allows you to network for further tuition assistance; that's the way the world works. Most people start in patient transport in a hospital and start networking that way. It will pay about the same as you are making now and it's often back-breaking demanding work. . .but every patient transporter I knew was usually enrolled in nursing, rad. tech., or some other program.

Nursing is pretty good because you can start with LPN, go onto RN, get your BS, then your masters (if you really want to go that far). You can even get your Dr. of Nursing but then we all don't know what to call you - doctor or nurse, ha, ha. However, nursing programs can be competitive to get into.

When you take your classes, just be sure to take them from an accredited program like a community college or private college. . .not that the trade schools are bad but they may not transfer credits when and if you decide to declare a formal major at a com. college or university.

I hope you understand I wasn't knocking your career or your husbands or your industry. . .but I do think some industries are more meant to be transitional with the pay and benefits they offer (food service, retail, some industry). There's nothing wrong with doing them - as some money is better than no money and I have done food service and retail while earning my way through school. In fact, I would go as far to say that I think all people SHOULD do them at one time or another in their life and I expect my sons to work, well. . .the hard, crap jobs while he is young, at least somewhat (around here, it's the minimum wage jobs on the Boardwalk).

I just think it's not good to hang a career on mediocre or bad industries. They are "transitional" type of jobs.

Good luck.

I hope I have helped you develop a long term vision and the others have helped you solidify a short term plan. What a pleasure it is to help somebody.

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