Save significant money on fuel costs

[Team Syntek]

Hey guys, I am new to the SavingAdvice forum. I am NOT spam, this is NOT a scheme or a MLM....I am a real human promoting a product that saves people significant money on fuel costs. With the rising cost of gasoline, who doesnt want to save these days??

I am a distributor for a fuel additive that is GUARANTEED to save the average 2-car family over $700/year in net fuel saving profit just by putting this product in your gas tank! It has mounds of supportive data and documentation to go with it, as well as 6 patents and is EPA registered. This has never been done before and you cannot find this on gas station shelves. The product is completely safe for any engine, gas or diesel, new or used.

Apparently I'm not allowed to post links so unfortunately I cannot link to a video explaining the product in great detail.

Thanks for your time and please feel free to ask me any questions!
Best,
Gregg

[greenskeeper]

I heard about this. The main ingredient is the extract of the snake....also known as snake oil.


The best ways to save fuel are:

1) buy a more fuel efficient vehicle (if possible)

2) use your brakes as little as possible. (anticipate stops, etc)

3) slow down

4) get in and go (no wasting idle, your car gets 0 mpgs doing this)

5) don't carry hundreds of lbs of crap in your trunk.

[seen]

I am sorry. I realize that you're just trying to do your job and that you have bills to pay like everyone else, but the first thing I noticed about this product after watching the YouTube video is that it lowers the combustion point of your gas. MPG aside, this is potentially engine destructive as it can cause engine knocking.

The main reason Premium gas cars require premium gas is for the increase in octane (ie. to RAISE the combustion temperature of the gas) so that the fuel in the piston will not pre-ignite. You might be able to get away with regular fuel if you don't redline your engine often, but every car is different, and as such the manufacturers require its owners to use a certain type of gas, oil, coolant, etc. There is a science to these assignments, yet this XFT product makes a blanket statement that claims to improve performance/efficiency of all vehicles across the board.

Before anyone here decides to use this product, please see the following link:
Xtreme Fuel Treatment

Some very good points are brought up in what's apparently been a tired argument.

[Team Syntek]

Seen, that was an honest and understandable response. And no....there is no snake oil in the ingredients panel!

I cannot answer the EPA registration vs EPS testing question....I would actually like to see that myself because I'm confident the product would pass with flying colors. There are over 3 billion miles and over 70 billion hours worth of data compiled and logged from companies like Caterpillar and other construction/mining companies. That's nothing to shy away from....and the product was added to the Magnuson act of 1975 (a bill that passed legislation) that states certain aftermarket products such as fuel additives CANNOT void a manufacturer's warranty if they pass the rigorous screening. This product poses ZERO harm to an engine if dosed properly.

As far as the engine knocking, sounds like a bit of fuzzy science myth. Syntek Global, the company responsible for manufacturing the product, has not had a SINGLE insurance claim in over 20 years and they have a massive liability policy. Again, this is all documented and made available in PDF form to distributors.

Guys.....the product secured patents that were developed by 2 Nobel prize winning scientists who won great recognition from NASA. Again, nothign to shy away from. Anything else I can answer? My '08 Dodge Nitro personally went from 16.3 to 19mpg in 6 weeks and has remained at that level. My truck starts up immediately and runs cleaner (idles smooth and slight throttle sensitivity from the horsepower increase). XFT more than pays for itself!

[disneysteve]

Originally Posted by Team Syntek

Hey guys, I am new to the SavingAdvice forum. I am NOT spam, this is NOT a scheme or a MLM....I am a real human promoting a product

If you are coming to a discussion forum mainly to promote a product, I'd say that is spam by definition. So don't bother.

[Team Syntek]

Hey Steve, I found this forum looking around a Google search for "Saving Money tips". I think my being is here is quite appropriate since the product I am promoting is GUARANTEED to save people money on fuel costs. Some folks try to question the compatibility/quality/longevity of the product which is totally understandable....I am here to answer questions and show folks that there are hundreds of testimonials of families and businesses of all kinds who have saved a ton each year by using it.

Its not a scheme, its a tried and true way to save money on gasoline!

Thanks

[jpg7n16]

Not Spam: "Consider fuel additives to lower your gas costs. They have been shown to save the average 2 car family $700/year. Here's a link to the study: {insert link here}"

Spam: "Consider Acme Co's special additive Xtreme Mileage to lower your gas costs. Our company guarantees the average 2-car family will save $700/year. Here's a link to our website where you can buy it: {insert link here} Buy it today!!"

Recommending a product type is very different than recommending a product.

For instance, if I replied "as an alternative, you could consider biking to locations less than 5 miles away. This would save significant fuel costs, and even benefit your health."

That would be much different than "my company sells the new Schwinn road bike. This bike is perfect for short raod trips and can save you significant fuel costs - while improving your health. Make those 5-mile trips greener today: {link}"

See the difference?

[Team Syntek]

Sound advice JPG - I do appreciate the suggestions and I absolutely see the difference. As a distributor, Ive been looking in unique online places to promote and spread the word. The last thing I want, however, is to come across like an ACME brand stick of dynamite who's pushing it on people!

Allow me to revise my post strategy and just open up the thread for any questions/suggestions/feedback on advice for saving money on fuel costs. Of course, I would strongly urge everyone to use this product but I am new here and dont aim to burn any bridges turn people off. I am glad that I was able to address a few questions already and will be here to answer any more.

Thanks guys,
Gregg

[SeanH]

Slick 50 and other engine oil additives - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

Skepdic.com sums these sort of products up nicely.

appeal to authority - logical fallacies - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

See also the fallacy known as appeal to authority. Nobel prizes. NASA. Trust me.

[Team Syntek]

These products?

XFT has NEVER been done before...ever. It pulls 6 different important agents into one formula. This ingredient panel is 100% unique and WAS based around a technology created and developed by 2 Nobel prize winning scientists, who sold the organo-metallic compound technology to NASA. Look them up, Ernst Otto Fischer and Geoffrey Wilkinson.

Anything else folks? I'm telling you...every single one of your questions has already been thought of, researched, and documented with supportive data.

[Team Syntek]

lol some of you hardcore skeptics out there really need to come out of your shells and not be afraid of your own shadow! You are looking at a win-in product that has ZERO faults.....just savings to offer.

[Mr Nice Guy]

You picked a horrible market to spam to. Way to get acquainted with the community before you start talking shop. I hope you don't do this at dinner parties.

The forum is called SAVING advice lol. It kind of implies we are a little bit more conscious of our finances than other forums.

[jeffrey]

I was ready to delete this as spam, but am enjoying the beating he's taking...what to do...Team Syntek -- there is no promotion of products in this forum with which you are affiliated as per forum rules. Feel free to discuss anything else here, but no promoting your product.

[bjl584]

A fuel additive basically mixes any water or impurities that may be in your gas. It works the way the catalist does in salad dressing. (the ingredient that mixes the oil and water so that you don't have to shake it before each use.) That way everything can go through your injectors and be burned more cleanly and completely.

I've never heard of XTF, but I expect that it is no different than any other additive out there. There are countless additives out there that you can buy at any auto parts store for cheaper, and chemically they are no different. Talk to your trusted mechanic about what he recommends.

Caution using additives on a newer vehicle as it may void your waranty.

The best ways to save on gas are to drive slower and less aggressively.

[disneysteve]

Originally Posted by jeffrey

I was ready to delete this as spam, but am enjoying the beating he's taking...what to do...Team Syntek -- there is no promotion of products in this forum with which you are affiliated as per forum rules. Feel free to discuss anything else here, but no promoting your product.

Thanks for weighing in Jeffrey. That was my thought exactly. It is very clearly spam, but watching everyone pile on the spammer is entertaining. Hopefully, he'll just go away. If not, I'll be happy to delete his posts and ban him.

[rj.phila]

hey team syntek- a few things:

1-you do realize the "car guys", click and clack, with the nationally syndicated show on npr, just debunked the myth of your product-calling it utter hooey-a couple weeks ago, right?

2-if it's such a no-brainer, surely you must have at least one statistical piece of data linking higher mileage?

3-a win-win would be one where i get your potentially worthless product for free, not one where i gamble my own money on its efficacy. lets do this-give me a free one month trial supply; if it works, i'll buy more. that is much closer to a win-win.

4-i actually have my OWN product that you should buy, its called "mr. wiggles fantastical cure-all potion". it is scientifically proven to make your marriage happier, your dogs poop wont smell, and you WILL get a promotion at work. PM me for pricing, you have nothing to lose.

[Team Syntek]

ahhhh, where to begin....

First off, thank you admin for at least allowing me to state my case and defend the product....which I will gladly continue to do in a respectful way. I honestly never intended to come across as a spammer. I never said CLICK HERE AND BUY TODAY!! I am informing this forum with factual information that was based from billions of miles logged from both individuals and commercial companies. The product is fairly new (2009) to the general public, but has existed under a different name in the mining companies for the last 20 years.

@MrNiceGuy: Yes, this forum is all about savings. This product averages between 15-20% increase in fuel economy which averages DOUBLE in fuel savings than what you pay for it. I call that smart savings, plus all the other benefits it does to keep engines running at peak performance. I have access to dozens of testimonials and trials from both commercial and public users.

@Jeffrey: thank you for allowing me to defend the product. I can tell that apparently some folks like to instigate arguments just for the sake of arguments.....but I am here to respectfully answer any and all questions. I wont stand to be bashed....waste of time....so lets have an intelligent convo? I do apologize for putting this in the wrong forum...again I'm brand new and didnt see that

@bjl584: Few things....

1) This product does not "mix water or impurities". XFT's demulsifier removes water/condensation from the fuel because water & gasoline are a destructive combination. I could rattle off the other 5 key components but I dont aim to sound redundant.

2) It is far from anything you have seen on a Pep Boys or gas station shelf. The 6 key components that make up XFT have never been attempted before and never will because they secured the patent for the organo-metallic compound, which is the bread and butter of the product. I dont expect you to understand what that means...other than it works extremely efficiently at increasing mileage and horsepower. Again, developed by 2 Nobel prize winners mentioned above.

3) This product CANNOT void any manufacturer warranty, as it has been included in the Magnuson Act bill of 1975 which states certain aftermarket products pass aggressive testing and are deemed non-harmful. This stuff poses zero harm to engines and not a single claim has been filed under Syntek Global's monster insurance policy. Not one claim.


@disneySteve: I am assuming you are also admin. Again, I thank you for being democratic in your process and I'm opening the floor to intelligent discussion because as you can clearly see....EVERY single one of these questions has already been anticipated and answered by the company. I am simply reciting them to the members here.

@rj:

1) I want you to provide a valid link. I am completely unaware of this click & clack nonsense and just did a search on their website. Not a single result was turned up for XFT or Syntek Global. I dont care if they did a "test trial" using Slick 50 or STP, those products dont hold a candle to Xtreme Fuel Treatment!

2) I dont have one piece of info linking XFT to higher mileage, I have DOZENS of detailed PDF's showing the technical specs of the product, test trials of both commercial and individual use, and all sorts of data linking to over 3 billion miles and 70 billion hours of usage.

3) I would gladly ship you a trial bottle if you promised to do a non-biased, thorough test trial, log your results, and simply post the results on here for everyone to share. I am guessing from your username that you are in the Philly area? So I am...so PM me your details and Ill ship you a trial bottle that will provide 6 treatments, MORE than enough to see a significant increase in fuel economy.



Wheeewwww....tough crowd.....is that all folks?

[bjl584]

There are only two ways to remove water from a fuel tank. Mix it with the gas and burn it through the engine, or evaporate it. a chemical additive can only mix the water with the gas.

Organo-metallic compounds are metals with an organic compound linked to it, such as carbon. Gas is a hydrocarbon, so there you go.

The best results that I've gotten for increasing horsepower, torque, and economy are my experiences using MOD chips to trick and reprogram the factory computer. For a few hundred dollars you can get real permanent results. Caution, if you don't know what you are doing you can ruin your engine. This sort of thing isn't for amateurs.

You may void an aftermarket or retailer warranty with this product if you use aftermarket replacement parts. Especially rings, pistons, or fuel injectors.

[Team Syntek]

bj: again those are great points and I applaud everyone who is creating intelligent convo based around the product. We would not be in business if the product failed to perform how it is designed to. Again, not one single liability claim in over 20 years is impressive....no matter how you spin that.

I have heard about "chipping" the engine's computer sensors. Is basically regulates the oxygen/fuel intake right? Well, thats great but I wont be attempting that anytime soon!

And the last part about voiding a manufacturer warranty absolutely applies to any aftermarket part that is not approved. Thats not making any substantial claim really....what matters is that XFT was granted into the Magnuson Act bill which protects the product from ever voiding a warranty if used properly.

[bjl584]

Originally Posted by Team Syntek

bj: again those are great points and I applaud everyone who is creating intelligent convo based around the product. We would not be in business if the product failed to perform how it is designed to. Again, not one single liability claim in over 20 years is impressive....no matter how you spin that.

I have heard about "chipping" the engine's computer sensors. Is basically regulates the oxygen/fuel intake right? Well, thats great but I wont be attempting that anytime soon!

And the last part about voiding a manufacturer warranty absolutely applies to any aftermarket part that is not approved. Thats not making any substantial claim really....what matters is that XFT was granted into the Magnuson Act bill which protects the product from ever voiding a warranty if used properly.

Yes, basically a computer on a car is at so called "factory" settings. The engine on a car is often not running at its full potential, because the manufacturer will idle them down for selling to the masses. You can essentially unlock the potential of any engine by reprogramming its computer. An engine is capable of much more horsepower, torque, and fuel economy than what it rolls off the assembly line with.