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06-13-2008, 03:43 PM
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Yes, you certainly will save more money when you are childless, but, what's
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heavens do you really see nothing worthwhile in life outside of children??????
Top research is done by adults, new innovations in medicine, tech, etc. basic needs of all our lives could not be met up to American luxury standards without constant dedication of folks away from kids!
Not to mention proper raising of a child takes many adults..if we all have a house full who has time to help out?
I rarely get riled up about differences in opinion, but the insulting idea that ones life is not worth living childless is too much to ignore...and this is coming from a mother of 4, I like mine, but the life of one handed typing while nursing an infant is nt for everyone!
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06-13-2008, 04:23 PM
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Whats the purpose of my life? Are you serious?
I'm an elementary music teacher in an urban, poverty stricken school. I take care of 750 students. I just finished my masters in educational administration with a Principal's Certificate after only 4 years of teaching.
I certainly have a purpose.
That was probably one of the most idiotic comments I have ever heard. Sounds like you need to GET a life rather than ask me about the purpose of mine.
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06-13-2008, 05:48 PM
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In defense of F16, I think sometimes things don't quite come across in our postings exactly the way we mean them. I know that's happened to me a time or two!
For the original poster - yes, I do think you will save money by not having kids (unless you choose to live extravagantly on the money you aren't spending on them). I would be farther ahead financially had I not had my daughter. Of course I wouldn't trade her for anything, but the reality is that I would have been further ahead in my career and financial goals by now if I hadn't been a mother.
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06-13-2008, 05:53 PM
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I had my dd at 28 and it was the best choice that I have ever made and it have also caused me to be a better saver and to really look at what I'm doing with my money. I have saved so much more money than I did when I was childless. I was spending money like it was no tomorrow when I didn't have a child just because the money was there. Now that I have someone I'm responable for things have changed because I realize being broke just isn't going to cut it when diaper need to be brought.
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06-13-2008, 06:19 PM
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We may not have been in the best financial situation when we had out DS but we've made it and we're still kickin'. I don't care that he costs me money. I can try to make the best decisions and spend smartly but never and I mean NEVER would I ever regret having him. or any others we may have.
The aspect of children is based on the person. You know, different strokes for different folks. However, I wouldn't base your decision on the financial aspect alone. Besides, if you don't spend your money on said kids you're gonna end up spending that money somewhere else...whether it's setting it aside for a rainy day or buying stuff
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06-13-2008, 06:42 PM
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your are not serious
If you says you dont want children that means you are disobeying Gods commandment he says in genesis go and multiply and replainish the earth, so i dont see the reason why you not want to have children. think well
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06-13-2008, 06:44 PM
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If you says you dont children that means you are disobeying Gods commandment he says in genesis go and multiply and replainish the earth, so i dont see the reason why you not want to have children. think well
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I'm willing to bet we've got a lot of different religions and beliefs on this board so I think we're getting away from the question at hand here.
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06-13-2008, 06:54 PM
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As for me am praying to God to give set twins. i tell you if God answer my prayer i will not mind spending my last card for them.
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06-13-2008, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gamecock43
I think kids bring you more wealth in terms of peace, pride and joy than the money in the bank not raising them.
That said, they cost a bundle and will certaintly save you money.
However, you have all this money in the bank, who will you leave it to?
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I think they nailed it on the head. You may have more money, but life isn't about money. It's about the people you share your life with. I wouldn't have or not have kids simply for financial reasons.
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06-13-2008, 10:01 PM
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One thing I believe is that if you don't want them, don't have them. I feel sorrow for the children who's parents find them to be a burden.
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I agree with that and will further that by stating...don't have kids if you don't want the responsibility. As a teacher I see parents who wanted kids for wrong reasons...someone who would love them or for the attention...and now don't do right by these kids.
Not having kids is a personal decision whether it is based on life style, health, or personal beliefs. You and only you know what is best for you and don't be guilted into having kids if you really don't want them. I'm probably preaching to the choir, and I'm sorry. It sounds like you don't want to have children for the wrong reasons and I applaud you.
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06-14-2008, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Akanchawa
If you says you dont want children that means you are disobeying Gods commandment he says in genesis go and multiply and replainish the earth, so i dont see the reason why you not want to have children. think well
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I think we as a race have managed to be fruitful and multiply to a GREAT extent...now is not the time to have kids out of duty to God! Not to mention God made plenty of folk infertile....He must have had a reason.
To the OP and anyone else choosing not to have kids (or simply having that choice made for them) please do not let other religious beliefs make you feel bad about your choice, God loves variety in both actions and looks. (how could He not, look at all the different kinds of insects!)
There are many many ways to make a difference in a child's life, bearing one is not the only way.
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06-14-2008, 07:48 AM
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It really depends on your view of life and what you want. I personally would have felt that my life was unfullfilled if I didn't have children. I would have had that longing all of my life. In some ways having children may wake you up to finances as you realize you have to plan and think beyond yourself so in some ways it is financially beneficial to people. A childless friend of mine doesn't necessarily save any more money than we do. She takes several trips out of the country every year so she still spends and probably as much. Instead of buying a minivan she buys a sports car and so forth. So, the difference may not be that much either way.
Life is not easily quantified in dollars and cents. You really have to decide what your life is all about and then seek the life you want.
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06-14-2008, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PrincessPerky
I think we as a race have managed to be fruitful and multiply to a GREAT extent...now is not the time to have kids out of duty to God! Not to mention God made plenty of folk infertile....He must have had a reason.
To the OP and anyone else choosing not to have kids (or simply having that choice made for them) please do not let other religious beliefs make you feel bad about your choice, God loves variety in both actions and looks. (how could He not, look at all the different kinds of insects!)
There are many many ways to make a difference in a child's life, bearing one is not the only way.
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Well put, Princess!
The Genesis verse beforementioned was when Noah was leaving the ark with his family and two of every animal and God told them to multiply because they were the only ones left...the verse was taken out of context.
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06-14-2008, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PrincessPerky
heavens do you really see nothing worthwhile in life outside of children??????
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I personally have no children yet. But I think, that sometime in your life, you just see other people (friends, relatives, co-workers) with their sons and girls, and you just say yourself: "I want children too".
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06-14-2008, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ScrimpAndSave
Whats the purpose of my life?
Are you serious?
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quite serious.
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Originally Posted by ScrimpAndSave
I'm an elementary music teacher in an urban, poverty stricken school. I take care of 750 students. I just finished my masters in educational administration with a Principal's Certificate after only 4 years of teaching.
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Well, that's great!
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Originally Posted by ScrimpAndSave
I certainly have a purpose.
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Would you be so kind to tell me what exactly are you living for?
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Originally Posted by ScrimpAndSave
That was probably one of the most idiotic comments I have ever heard.
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tnx.
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Originally Posted by ScrimpAndSave
Sounds like you need to GET a life rather than ask me about the purpose of mine.
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GET a life?
What you mean?!
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06-14-2008, 09:24 AM
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Those who think parenting is their only purpose in life are likely to be depressed after having kids as well as before.
Even I (always home mom) need other goals and interests in life, so when no kid will behave, or everyone is sick, I know failing at parenting for a day, doesn't make me a total failure.
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06-14-2008, 09:29 AM
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Anyone who beleives that it is your God given responsibility to have children, has crossed the line of being a nut. You don't have to bare children to love them and guide them as a teacher or a mother.
SAS, I think you jumped to conclusions that F-16 was judging you or saying you have no purpose.
F-16, I don't think your last post is helping your cause. SAS, has plenty of purpose, like you, in this world whether or not she has children or not. If you think she has to have children to have a purpose, your wrong, thus Nuns. If you didn't mean for her to think you said that, you should clarify that.
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06-14-2008, 10:46 AM
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Guys, think about this:
You are 60 years old, rich, you are living a high-level lifestyle and evenings you are ALONE in your home. There is nobody who thinks about you, there is nobody who cares is everything allright with you or not.
There is nobody who will support you. There is nobody who will bring you a glass of water. And there will be nobody who will come to say you last goodbye.
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06-14-2008, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by maat55
F-16, I don't think your last post is helping your cause.
SAS, has plenty of purpose, like you, in this world whether or not she has children or not. If you think she has to have children to have a purpose, your wrong, thus Nuns. If you didn't mean for her to think you said that, you should clarify that.
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Ok, lets face it the other way.
She wants to save money.
Think about your children as an investment, like mutual funds, bonds and so on.
You grow them up, support financially, and when they are grown up, they will pay you back and support you in every circumstances, not just money.
You will feel yourself more secure, if you know, that there is somebody who will always help you, support you. Wanna such an investment? 
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06-14-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by F16
Guys, think about this:
You are 60 years old, rich, you are living a high-level lifestyle and evenings you are ALONE in your home. There is nobody who thinks about you, there is nobody who cares is everything allright with you or not.
There is nobody who will support you. There is nobody who will bring you a glass of water. And there will be nobody who will come to say you last goodbye.
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Okay you think about this then--say you are 60 years old and you had kids because someone on a message board thought you should. You resented having the kids, they know it, and they don't visit you because they hate you. So there you are all alone, and nobody thinks about you...etc.
See they are both silly scenarios. Yes they both could happen, but neither is very likely. I know lots of older people who don't have children and who live very full and happy lifes. I also know lots of older people who love their families and grandchildren. Maybe you haven't noticed, but this old world is made of up lots of different kinds of people and they all have different wants and needs.
So for you, clearly you need children to feel complete. Great on you. It was also important to me, but it isn't to everyone and you really have no business telling people their life is not complete without children. Simply isn't any of your business in my humble opinion.
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