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05-29-2008, 12:08 PM
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05-29-2008, 03:04 PM
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Someone I know had a really nice car and I commented on it and said something like "That is really nice. I wish I could afford one of those." They told me that all I needed was to be able to make the monthly payments! Disney Steve, this was from a doctor I know. Come on, get the rest of your colleagues to start thinking more like you!
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05-29-2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Snave
Someone I know had a really nice car and I commented on it and said something like "That is really nice. I wish I could afford one of those." They told me that all I needed was to be able to make the monthly payments!
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I know someone who has had her car a couple of years (still making payments) and was looking at a different car a while ago. She said she might buy it because her payments would stay the same. The fact that she'd be making those same payments for several more years apparently never crossed her mind. She ended up not buying the new car that time. That same person just today said that she was going to look at a car tonight. Her father had a rental over the weekend that she really liked. If she could get that for the same payment she has now, she said she might do it.
Lots of folks operate on the premise that if they can afford the monthly payment they can afford the purchase.
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05-29-2008, 03:27 PM
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Disneysteve- your story reminds me of someone I know who had a civic. She talked her parents into trading the civic for an SUV because she was planning to move from FL to MA and "the civic is dangerous in the snow". She gets an SUV but decides to stay in FL for 2 more years. Finally she moves to MA but once in New England she traded in the SUV for a SAAB that she drives now.
On top of all that, she had the nerve to cancel attending a mutual friends party and said it was because "it was suposed to snow that night and she does not feel comfortable driving the SAAB in the snow."
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05-29-2008, 04:20 PM
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"it's only 30 cents more"
This is the constant suggestion with 'value meals' the drink is only 30 cents with the burger and fries, but in general I avoid pop or pop like products, so 30 cents or free it isn't something I want for me.
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05-29-2008, 07:20 PM
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When my Mother dies, I get an inheritance
Or something to that effect, by my ex, constantly for years. 20+ years ago. Yes, she is still very much alive, fortunately
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05-29-2008, 11:08 PM
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once when i was visiting a friend in another state, she took me out shopping to our country's largest shopping complex. she was with me when i withdrew some cash and saw my bank balance (which was around $700, but i knew i had a $600 cc bill due the week later) she exclaimed "woah you're loaded" to which i explained the cc bill and she said "oh never mind that, just make the minimum repayment, i'm taking you shopping!"
later on i commented how i loved some of the brand Country Road's clothes as we were walking past their store. she goes to me "well you work hard enough let's go in there and buy you something". i said to her no it's fine, they are overpriced (at over $100 for most things) and she said oh come on it doesn't matter, you work.
hahahah!
dont worry i didnt listen to her at all.
oh and then a little while ago she came to visit me in my state. she told me that her dad was paying for the flights, and her granparents slipped her a few hundred dollars as well as her having money saved for the trip. while she was with me she was splashing her cash around, bought her bf a $110 jumper and spent around $400 on clothes herself. then she said to me the other day, because i am visiting the town where she lives, that she couldnt take a day off to spend with me(even though i had organised this six months ago and told her the exact dates) and when i mentioned i'd not only taken two days off to spend with her, but she'd only given me two weeks notice of an additional day i had to take off to pick her up from the airport, she got ****ty at me saying that it wasnt her fault that she had to save every last cent to come and visit me and that she was broke.
excuse me?
bah.
i told her not to worry about it, i won't bother her with the 'honest friendship' thing anymore, and i'd let her know if i was anywhere near her on my trip if she was available. i'm not trying that hard anymore for her.
bah!
so thats a bit of a friend-rant and stupid justification-rant as well 
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05-30-2008, 06:32 AM
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It is odd how so many people fluctuate between a "just do it" and "I can't afford it" position.
I know a man who refused to go back to the doctor because he "couldn't afford" the co-pay and yet, just over a week later, purchased season passes to a local theme park because he works hard and wants to enjoy himself.
He also received a $1,200 tax rebate, which he told me about several times. Each time, was in conjunction with the fact that he needed the A/C on his car repaired. In other words, "Boy, I'll be glad when my stimulus money comes in so I can get my A/C fixed before summer." And yet, he received this money in the middle of May, doesn't have a repaired A/C, and now complains that he isn't sure where he'll come up with the money. (i.e. - He spent a big chunk of the stimulus money on... ???... pretty much nothing, so now, he "can't afford" to repair his A/C.)
Most of the people I know who whine the loudest about gas and food prices are the same ones who have no savings, payments on a flat-screen TV and a dozen other things, and who dine out or pick up fast food three or four times a week, burning through both food money and gas money... *sigh*... But they don't see it that way.
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05-30-2008, 07:03 AM
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It's funny, a friend of mine who shares the same outlook as most of us that saving is good, was talking about some people we know...very much like reflectionite's "friend" who thinks if they have some money it's there for spending. So I guess that's just another poor justification. If you have a dollar, spend a dollar.
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05-30-2008, 07:07 AM
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I can't believe I didn't remember this earlier.
I have a friend who once bought a new living room suit because she liked the color of her cereal bowls so much that she needed to get a new living room to match.
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05-30-2008, 08:03 AM
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Well, this isn't quite a stupid justification for spending, it's just a stupid justification.... I knew a girl who when she went to the bar, would always (and yes, I mean always, this is not an exageration) drink to the point she would get sick because she would not only order herself drinks until she was wasted, she would finish off everyone elses drinks as well. Her reasoning was 'I don't want it to go to waste'........
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05-30-2008, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cylenchar
I knew a girl who when she went to the bar, would always (and yes, I mean always, this is not an exageration) drink to the point she would get sick because she would not only order herself drinks until she was wasted, she would finish off everyone elses drinks as well. Her reasoning was 'I don't want it to go to waste'........
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Obviously, she wasn't referring to her liver or brain cells.
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05-30-2008, 09:00 PM
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Brace yourself for this one:
Cars are a good investment.
Not kidding, I know someone who believes this and has gone through more cars in the past ten years than I will go through in a lifetime.
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05-31-2008, 03:54 PM
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"I didn't want to be reminded of my ex"
After trading in a 2005 Trailblazer for a brand new 2007 Trailblazer.
Now she complains that she's so far in debt and can't sell the car because she owes too much on it.
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05-31-2008, 09:45 PM
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"I didn't want to be reminded of my ex"
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I got my first house for a great deal because of this!
How about "you can write it off" or "it's tax deductible"
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06-01-2008, 03:11 AM
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"Most of the people I know who whine the loudest about gas and food prices are the same ones who have no savings, payments on a flat-screen TV and a dozen other things, and who dine out or pick up fast food three or four times a week, burning through both food money and gas money... *sigh*... But they don't see it that way." Not always
My best ones...
"How will I ever buy work clothes if I quit working" (What?)
"He really likes working two jobs, besides it gives me time to unwind" (rum and coke in hand)
"You can't take it when your gone right?" (Wrong, your kids can)
My all time favourite, we were going to the pharmacy to get meds but my friend just HAD to stop at this flea market thing and buy a bunch of crap. I was a broke 15 year old so, I didn't care. When we get to the pharmacy her medicine is way more expensive than she thought and says "I can't afford that! It's too expensive." Then on her way out buys a pack of cigarettes. !!! (Has bronchitics)
My mom, "I can't afford health food" While eating Doritos and Mountain Dew!
Dad, "I can't get you school clothes," two weeks later dad walks in with a new Sony and games, "Hey wanna play some games?"
Yeah I went to foster care.
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06-01-2008, 09:08 AM
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Wait, did you really? go to foster care? Thats terrible, I'm sorry! Good for you to be able to see your parents mistakes and avoid them!
And not paying for medicine in order to buy junk is the American standard.
That goes right into another dumb justification: How about not buying something that will save you money in the long run, because its "not a necessity".
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06-01-2008, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gamecock43
And not paying for medicine in order to buy junk is the American standard.
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I surely disagree with this statement. I do think the overwhelming majority would and do pay for any necessary medicine before they buy junk. Actually, most Americans are insured, and so have been pre-paying for the possibility of medical need even before they take the paycheck to the bank. On top of that, I still say most Americans who need medicine will buy it to the exclusion of buying junk.
And could you give some examples of the "not buying something that will save you money in the long run, because its 'not a necessity'." Are we talking about not buying a low water use washing machine, for example?
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06-01-2008, 12:38 PM
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"It's just for entertainment" also "I don't lose money, I'm making it" - My father's reasoning for going to the casinos.
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06-01-2008, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Joan.of.the.Arch
I surely disagree with this statement. I do think the overwhelming majority would and do pay for any necessary medicine before they buy junk. Actually, most Americans are insured, and so have been pre-paying for the possibility of medical need even before they take the paycheck to the bank. On top of that, I still say most Americans who need medicine will buy it to the exclusion of buying junk.
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I'm a physician in a poor area. I see patients every day who tell me they are having trouble affording their meds but the vast majority of them smoke, many of them drink alcohol and lots of them buy lottery tickets every day. Maybe if they stopped doing those things, they would be better able to afford their meds.
Unfortunately, lots of people do not make their health a priority in their lives. I'm not saying that is true of the majority, but it does describe a significant number of people.
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