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Old 01-20-2007, 03:55 AM
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On some beauty products, they write "not tested on animals" . Then who they test it on before leting the people use it? I would rather have some animal die, than a person loosing their hair from nontested shampoo. IMO, people come first, than animals. I just can't stand it when pets are treated better than people. I love animals, but people come first.
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On some beauty products, they write "not tested on animals" . Then who they test it on before leting the people use it? I would rather have some animal die, than a person loosing their hair from nontested shampoo. IMO, people come first, than animals. I just can't stand it when pets are treated better than people. I love animals, but people come first.
well, the ideal is that a gentle cosmetic, shampoo, soap, etc is made with ingredients that are already known to not be harmful to people. therefore, there should be no need to test the completed product on an animal (or anyone else) to see if it's harmful.

testing at that point becomes about the 'look and feel' of a product: does it lather well, how does it feel when you put it on, how does it smell, does your skin feel tight afterwards, yadda yadda yadda. in this case, i trust a human product tester more than a bunny or chimp.

and as a side note, there are ingredients like some essential oils that aren't harmful to humans but can have serious effects in certain animals. why prevent a product from going to market because a cat can't wear it when the people it's intended for can?
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It seems like we have turned everything we do into some "statement". People are evaluated and judged based on the car they drive, what they eat, what they wear, etc, etc. I know this has gone on since the beginning of time. But, I am not any less "moral" sitting and eating a hamburger than someone is eating tofu and a salad. I think we have gone overboard.
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But, I am not any less "moral" sitting and eating a hamburger than someone is eating tofu and a salad.
i wasn't aware someone had said you were....

while i do try to act/spend in accordance with my beliefs, i don't really talk about it unless specifically asked (as was the case with this thread).

it's no different than my inlaws (FIL is a preacher) who don't buy lottery tickets, alcohol, or play bingo b/c it goes against their beliefs. he'll speak to it if asked, but the actions are taken because he believes in them, not so other folks will think differently of him.

just because my beliefs are different than his (i like lotto!), i respect his right to uphold his beliefs and i would expect the same from him (within of course moral and legal reason).
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