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Old 11-20-2006, 07:06 PM
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Did anyone see or hear his comments...it was terrible. I mean absolutely horrible. I was so appauled
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Sounds like he is a racist jerk. Here are the article and video for those who didn't see it http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=242631&GT1=7703, http://www.cnn.com (click on "Kramer goes on racist rant" to watch the video)
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There is simply no excuse for behavior like that. Shame on anyone who wallows/ slings racial mud...inexcusable.
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That's just despicable. I couldn't even watch it all. Unfortunately, what's in your heart eventually comes out of your mouth.
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rduell, you are right!
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That's just despicable. I couldn't even watch it all. Unfortunately, what's in your heart eventually comes out of your mouth.
correctus , cant deny that fire
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just horrible, mean spiritedness and hatred just return to you in the end! What a dissapointment...
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An interesting quote from that article:

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Moderating his tone at one point, Richards tells the audience, "It shocks you, it shocks you" and refers to "what lays buried."
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I never understood the need to use this kind of language. Hate speech is just awful! It demeans everyone within earshot! Who knows what goes through peoples minds?
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Who knows what goes through peoples minds?
i dunno, the phrase "big, sucking void" might apply... and hey, since nature abhors a vacuum, is kramer now imploding?
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he appears to have what i call "inner rage." probably the child in him came out, when i get mad i tell the truth... it was surely a bad mistake on his part.. he will be tagged from it... an apology was absolutely necessary...i wonder what is in his background for him to act like this... thanks for the post..
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This may stir the pot but...

Why does no one care that the audience member called Richards a "m*f* cracker?"

Don't get me wrong. Richards lost it. Even without the 'n' word he really blew it. His hateful comments, as much as the use of the 'n' word itself, is what reveals something worth condemning.

However, the 'rule' should apply both ways.


I personally despise racism, or rather any prejudice and bias, in any form.

However, if the 'n' word is so absolutely terrible, demeaning, and disgusting (which I understand and accept that it is) why don't we see or hear from leaders or other prominent persons whenever a black rap artist, comedian, or athlete says the 'n' word in some form? Seems to me the goal should be to stamp out the use of the word, period. Not just the use of the word by white people.

The only person I can remember addressing this is Bill Cosby. And for it, he caught a lot of flak.

Just a couple of thoughts. Take 'em or leave 'em.

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This may stir the pot but...

Why does no one care that the audience member called Richards a "m*f* cracker?"

Don't get me wrong. Richards lost it. Even without the 'n' word he really blew it. His hateful comments, as much as the use of the 'n' word itself, is what reveals something worth condemning.

However, the 'rule' should apply both ways.


I personally despise racism, or rather any prejudice and bias, in any form.

However, if the 'n' word is so absolutely terrible, demeaning, and disgusting (which I understand and accept that it is) why don't we see or hear from leaders or other prominent persons whenever a black rap artist, comedian, or athlete says the 'n' word in some form? Seems to me the goal should be to stamp out the use of the word, period. Not just the use of the word by white people.

The only person I can remember addressing this is Bill Cosby. And for it, he caught a lot of flak.

Just a couple of thoughts. Take 'em or leave 'em.
I completely agree with you.

Not to mention the fact that the reason he was so ticked off was because they had been acting up the whole time.

Everyone says stuff they regret later at some point. Im not religious, but I love the quote: Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone...
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I completely agree with you.

Not to mention the fact that the reason he was so ticked off was because they had been acting up the whole time.

I knew there would be at least one. Apparently there are two.

They came in late and they were somewhat loud ordering their drinks. I hardly think that justifies MR's tirade but apparently you do?

I saw the tape, prior to him going off the only thing that was said was my friend doesn't think you're funny. I've seen lots of comedians heckled before, but never a reaction from a comedian such as MR's.


The cracka comment was well AFTER the "funnies" about lynching and the repetition of the "N" word. Not nice, but clearly it was hurled in self-defense and it still doesn't have the same venom as the ways MR was using the N word.

And you and pound should know, the use of the N word IS controversial in the Black community, and it is not used in polite conversation by normal folks. And besides as it relates to MR's tirade, it is quite irrevelant.

Consider the pot stirred.
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