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10-26-2006, 10:58 AM
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hypenathed last name
My wife is thinking about using a hyhpenated last name for her DL and SS card so that other things like her health insurance and hospital records will not have to be changed and lost in to oblivion.
Is it legal to use part of your hypenated name on checks, CC and the such. Also please let me know if you have had any problems using a hyphen. Thanks 
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10-26-2006, 11:50 AM
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Re: hypenathed last name
My wife uses a hyphenated last name, because her family only had girls so she wanted to carry on the name. She has no problems using it other than it doesn't usually fit on CCs.
The only other problem is trying to spell it out for people.
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10-26-2006, 11:58 AM
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I say make the name change completely one time and be done with it forever.
My Dad got to where he spelled his name with "Jr." sometimes, and sometimes without, and he used a middle initial sometimes, and sometimes without. Eventually it all caught up to him when records got duplicated here and there. It got so bad that he started signing "a.k.a." and so on.
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10-26-2006, 12:16 PM
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Re: hypenathed last name
greedy,
does she ever use just the first or second part? Her hospital records are in her maiden name along with our checks, so she wants to change her name completely, but we thought that this might works as a compromise for now.
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10-26-2006, 01:09 PM
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How many women get married every year? Obviously institutions are use to dealing with this. Just make all the changes and if she ever needs to look up old records, (how often does this happen? Anyone know?) she can just say...'try looking under my madien name'. I can't see that this should be a big issue to any company.
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10-26-2006, 01:12 PM
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10-26-2006, 01:22 PM
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When I was married, I use my maiden name and hyphenated name. Now that I am divorced, I am glad I did not change my maiden name which made the transition easier. But the main reason for me to keep my maiden name is that I was still progressing in school and I did not want to contact 5 different colleges I attended to make my transcript match for the university program.
But generally, some people might get confused to which part of the last name is being used but that goes for women who don’t even use the married name along with the maiden name because of society tendency to use married name only and that is not really avoidable. The hyphenated name was long for me but it still managed to fit on DL and Credit Cards, it just might move the second part to the next line below making the maiden name almost look like the middle name.
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10-26-2006, 01:44 PM
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I do have some friends whose parents did not give the girls middle names so that when they married their maiden name became their middle name. I also have an aunt who has like five names! I have no idea the logic behind that!
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10-26-2006, 01:57 PM
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I work with a team that is based in India. I often have hard time ensuring their names match all documents are consistent because they generally have like 5 names and hardly ever in order or fully spelled out. This is the norms for them as their name can be based off of location, family name, married name, occupation, religion and so on. The order of name can actually change from time to time. Its hard to understand with U.S. has certain formality how names should be: i.e. first, middle, and last name and we assume that all cultures follow that formality. I think it depends on the culture and social society in their specific locations.
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10-26-2006, 04:48 PM
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I work with a couple computer systems that have real trouble with hyphens. Our County Office system "talks" with a system that also shares information (to certain degrees) with Social Security, three other county systems covering the other 57 counties, Department of Homeland Security, EDD (Unemployment Office), Center for Medicaid Services, Medicare portion of SSA, vital statisics, Private health insurance data matches, etc. It can be difficult sometimes. I would advocate changing everything with a name on it and being superconsistent and patient, because the discrepant systems seem to make things tough enough as it is. The name might be run together without a hyphen in one system, because the system won't take a character or space, the first part is entered as a middle name in another system, and different systems talking to each other see the names as different and cause certain transaction rejects.
I'm sure as newer better systems are developed they become better prepared to consistently handle hyphenated last names (names with accent marks or umlauts, hyphanted first names, first names with 2 capital letters, etc. etc.) but on some older systems, hephens create issues. What helps us at our office is for you to always use the same name....we'll likely have to look you up by both halves, depending on which system we are in.
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10-26-2006, 07:43 PM
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As far as medical records go, most facilities I call (claims adjuster) go by the patient's Social Security number, which would not change. The only ones that don't are Kaiser hospitals and I know you keep the same Kaiser member number as long as you're a member since I have a claimant with five different last names (yes, five names) who has had the same one since she was born. So I wouldn't be too worried her records will go poof if she starts using an A.K.A. of any sort -- we're all just numbers in the databases.
Can't speak for the financial bits though.
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10-26-2006, 07:49 PM
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I am one of those kids who has my mother's maiden name as my middle name. I hated it as a kid because the name sounds so much like a boy's name. I appreciate it more as an adult though. Although my mom still does regret changing her name (they were married 9 years before I was born.... that is when she changed her name) and to this day she talks about how my name would be so much better if I did not have my dad's last name.
As for my own name.... that will not be changing. THere are only girls in my family, and the name will be lost. It would be the 3rd name in my family lost in as many generations, and I don't want to carry that on.
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10-26-2006, 07:52 PM
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I don't think records will go "poof." I am saying that as a person who directly works with client records that the name issue is not a non-issue, and there may be inconveniences.
Although HIPAA doesn't prevent SSN colleciton/use, I know that lots of places that used to use SSN are now using different numbers. Years ago, my SSN was student number, my health insurance number, everything. Last time I was enrolled I was issued a random id number, and my insurance number is also random. The bonuses of one number I supposed were outweighed by the negatives on one number. So we are numbers....many many numbers.
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10-26-2006, 09:18 PM
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Wife used maiden name for CC's. Hyphenated name professionally and married name for PTA and other community things! Don't ask....I don't know and I don't ask!
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10-26-2006, 09:33 PM
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When I got married, I changed my last name. My parents didn't want me to change it. Not only I changed it on everything, but I also dropped my middle name, which in my culture is the fathers first name. I like it better now.
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10-27-2006, 06:09 AM
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Changing my last name was a big deal for me. I did not want to!!! Last name is a big deal in my family. But, I wanted to have a united family front with DH I guess, and didn't want our future kids to wonder why mom had a different last name. Solution: BOTH dh and I added my maiden name to our middle names (neither of us wanted to give those up either
 ) and I changed my last name. So now we both have 2 middle names, which nobody can figure out, but I know and he know about it. That's enough for me.
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10-27-2006, 06:34 AM
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 i took one look at his face and said "that's the way i feel about changing my name, too!"  i even asked him if we could pick a new name and both change (seemed equitable to me), and again he looked at me like i was a weirdo
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10-27-2006, 07:02 AM
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I wouldnt change my name even if he had the best last name in the world. It's the concept of it. The history of it dates back to when women were considered property..... on her wedding day she went from being her father's property to her husband's hence the name change. Also I don't feel I should have to change my identity just because I get married.
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10-27-2006, 07:55 AM
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Interesting twist on this thread...I love my family, but I will willingly change my last name to my husbands when I marry. It will a pain with much paperwork, but I am choosing to live my life with him and to me that means carrying his name. Odd...I've never really thought about it being a 'property' issue, or as not wanting my maiden name. Hum...something to think about.
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10-27-2006, 08:25 AM
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Re: hypenathed last name
Back to the topic, my DW wants to change her name but her health insurance company, we deal with them a lot and speak to someone fairly high up has told her not to at this time, once we are not their problem any more they don't care.
I was wondering more about the legality of paritally using your maiden name along with your hypen or switched. The ins has said that switching the names could cause many problems with payment, like it did with our address change.
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