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"When you make up your mind that you are done with poverty forever; that you will have nothing more to do with it; that you are going to erase every trace of it from your dress, your personal appearance, your manner, your talk, your actions, your home;
that you are going to show the world your real mettle; that you are no longer going to pass for a failure; that you have set your face persistently toward better things a competence, an independence and that nothing on earth can turn you from your resolution, you will be amazed to find what a reinforcing power will come to you, what an increase of confidence, reassurance, and self-respect. The very act of turning your back upon the black picture and resolving that you will have nothing more to do with failure, with poverty; that you will make the best possible out of what you do have; that you will put up the best possible appearance; that you will clean up, brush up, talk up, look up, instead of down hold your head up and look the world in the faces instead of cringing, whining, complaining will create a new spirit within you which will lead you to the light. Hope will take the place of despair, and you will feel the thrill of a new power, of a new force coursing through your veins. Thousands of people in this country have thought themselves away from a life of poverty by getting a glimpse of that great principle, that we tend to realize in the life what we persistently hold in the thought and vigorously struggle toward." ~~Orison Swett Marsden, in Peace, Power and Plenty. |
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"Since 1980, we have transformed ourselves from the world's biggest creditor nation to the nation most in debt. Mirroring this change, personal debt has skyrocketed. Credit cards allow us to get it "now," and make it easy to dig ourselves into some very deep holes.
I grew up glued to the TV, with its constant portrayal of affluence combined with ads claiming we could buy our way to happiness--if only we had enough money! My generation (I'm 41) was raised with the myth of ever increasing abundance, and we're still trying to fulfill that idea. Our politicians and economic system continually push "growth," but as Edward Abbey observed: "unlimited growth in a finite system is the ideology of the cancer cell." Yet we seem to think that only "more" will satisfy us. The number of square feet that is considered "adequate" for a home has risen dramatically in the past 30 years-- and now, well, "we need furniture" to fill those rooms. What about the heating bill? And so on. One concept we didn't learn very well is "enough." Knowing for oneself how much is sufficient is crucial for satisfaction." ~~Brian Julian, A Return to Frugality |
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![]() "Little leaks sink big ships. I think the small things are important because a lot of little things add up to significant money. I also think it is about mindset. If your mindset is that waste is okay, you will be more likely to be wasteful. If you are always looking for ways to avoid waste, you'll be a lot better off." ~~DisneySteve, commenting over on Myrtle's Money SavingAdvice.com blog |
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"Let honesty and industry be thy constant companions, and spend one penny less than thy clear gains; then shall thy pocket begin to thrive; creditors will not insult, nor want oppress, nor hungerness bite, nor nakedness freeze thee." ~~Benjamin Franklin
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...on being wary of CC debt! I don't think this is what the songwriter was discussing, but good to remember when you think debt won't cost you!
"There's always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby It's a deal, it's a deal!" ~song by Tom Waits/Waites? |
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“Consumption does not fill the void.” -sticker seen on subway
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"There's no substitute for saving money. Next time you crack open your wallet, think on this: The dollars you spend today ARE delaying your retirement." ~~Jonathan Clements
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"You can't get rich by spending money. The folks with the big house, fancy cars and designer clothes are, no doubt, loaded. But they may be loaded with debt." ~~Jonathan Clements
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“Somebody said to me, ‘But the Beatles were anti-materialistic.’ That’s a huge myth. John and I literally used to sit down and say, ‘Now, let’s write a swimming pool.’” -- Paul McCartney (hat tip)
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"The rampant greed that threatens to overwhelm our financial system and corporate world runs deeper than money. Not knowing what enough is subverts our professional values. It makes salespersons of those who should be fiduciaries of the investments entrusted to them." -John C. Bogle
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Ecclesiates 5:19
"Moreover, when God gives any man wealth and possessions, and enables him to enjoy them, to accept his lot and be happy in his work, this is a gift from God. He seldom reflects on the days of his life, because God keeps him occupied with gladness of heart. |
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Lucien Hooper, a Wall Street legend: “What always impresses me, is how much better the relaxed, long-term owners of stock do with their portfolios than the traders do with their switching of inventory. The relaxed investor is usually better informed and more understanding of essential values; he is more patient and less emotional; he pays smaller capital gains taxes; he does not incur unnecessary brokerage commissions; and he avoids behaving like Cassius by ‘thinking too much.’” |
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"A man builds a fine house; and now he has a master, and a task for life is to furnish, watch, show it, and keep it in repair the rest of his life." ~~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Always pay yourself last.
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The real difficulty in changing any enterprise lies not in developing new ideas, but in escaping from the old ones. - John Maynard Keynes In capitalism man exploits man, in communism its vice versa. Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor. -Thomas Jefferson In America today, we are nearer a final triumph over poverty than is any other land. - Herbert Hoover |
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Okay Snodog, I've got to ask -
Pay yourself LAST? I'd always heard "Pay Yourself FIRST." What gives? |
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The key is to have so few wants that you can comfortably live and have plenty of money left over to save. I know all the experts say the reverse but we save 38% of our gross (on a modest salary) by paying ourselves last. Paying yourself first is just too restrictive for me but YMMV.
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The real difficulty in changing any enterprise lies not in developing new ideas, but in escaping from the old ones. - John Maynard Keynes In capitalism man exploits man, in communism its vice versa. Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor. -Thomas Jefferson In America today, we are nearer a final triumph over poverty than is any other land. - Herbert Hoover Last edited by Snodog : 10-11-2009 at 06:03 PM. |
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