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Old 05-10-2006, 10:29 AM
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Question Which would you choose?

Would you rather be given a guaranteed $25,000 or get a 50/50 shot of winning $100,000?
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$25,000, I guess I don't like to gamble!!
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:39 AM
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25000.
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take the money and run.
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Put that bird in my hand!
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Take the money.
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No doubt about it; bring on the guaranteed cash!
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Default Re: Which would you choose?

a guaranteed $25,000, my luck is not that great
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Default Re: Which would you choose?

Actually, that's a tough one....

Because, either way, you lose nothing.

And I'm still young enough to take risks.

Having said that, I will still take the 25k.

Is there a particular reason why you are asking this? Just curious.
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I would definately take the $25,000 and put that in a 5% CD or higher if I could find one.
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Default Re: Which would you choose?

This sounds like a Deal or No Deal question. I'd go with the guaranteed money.
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Old 05-10-2006, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Which would you choose?

Wow, everyone would take the 25K??

Ok, let's spin the question a little bit. Let's say you had to choose between LOSING a guaranteed $25,000 or having a 50/50 chance of LOSING $100,000. Which would you choose?
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Again, would have to go with $25,000 again I would not want to risk losing $100,000
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Default Re: Which would you choose?

Sweeps, you been reading Winning Decisions?

I love that book.



It sure did get me thinking. I need to read it again.

I'd take the 50/50 chance at winning $100,000 - and take the guaranteed loss of $25,000.
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Old 05-11-2006, 06:20 AM
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Nothing gets past you, Jesse.
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It looks like we all think alike!!
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opps, I hit the wrong smiley, supposed to be giving an approval sign.
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Old 05-11-2006, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Which would you choose?

Is there an actual "answer" to this question?

I gave some more thought to this deceptively simple but fascinating question of 100% chance of 25k vs. 50% chance of 100k. Statistics would tell us that, over the course of enough trials, taking the 50% risk for 100k would be twice as rewarding as it would be to play it safe.

For the sake of example, let's say that 4 friends decide to band together, promising that whatever they earn collectively, they would split equally. Now, let's start with the playing it safe strategy. That means they're all going to go home with 25k each.

However, if they all choose to risk for 100k, statistically, 2 out of those 4 friends will win 100k. They then divide the winnings and each would then go home with 50k.

Of course, 4 trials is extremely low so the results can vary drastically. However, the more trials are applied, the more the sampling will even out. When that happens, it definitely pays to risk it all.

Alternatively, smaller groups can "diversify" to compromise between risk and gain. For example, half agree to risk it all while the other half agree to play it safe. In that same example of 4 friends, 2 of them play it safe and bring in 50k, while the other two risk it all. Given the 50% of success, let's say one of them wins and brings an additional 100k, bringing the total to 150k. Divide that by 4, and you have 37.5k of winning each.

Hmm. Actually, if this was a group strategy, I would have everybody risk it all. Diversifying makes sense in many scenarios, but not in this case.

Taking all this in, I'm going to revise my answer and mirror jmjj's response. If it's a scenario on winning, I would risk it, but in the scenario of taking a loss, I would play it safe. But then, we are talking about comparing an all gain, no loss scenario versus an all loss, no gain scenario.

Now, if group strategies were somehow forbidden, then I would say it's up to individual preferences.

Finally, if there is an "answer" to this, or any other insights, please share it already! I must know!
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Default Re: Which would you choose?

25000 of certainty is better than 100000 of uncertainty. Just my .02 cents.
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Old 05-11-2006, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Which would you choose?

There's no "right" answer. It all depends on your risk tolerance. But one interesting thing that crops up with this pair of questions is that people are much more willing to take on extra risk to avoid a loss than they would to realize a gain.

I played with the numbers a bit because I know this is a particularly risk-averse audience. But in a classic situation, you're given the following 2 scenarios :

1. You have a choice between (a) a guaranteed WIN of $100,000 or (b) a 10% chance of winning $1,000,000. Which would you choose?
2. You have a choice between (a) a guaranteed LOSS of $100,000 or (b) a 10% chance of losing $1,000,000 (in other words, a 90% chance of losing nothing). Which would you choose?

In #1, most people will choose a. In #2, most people will choose b. This is irrational, but it happens because of an overwhelming aversion to loss. Successful investors (and poker players by the way) learn to overcome this instinct.

EDIT: By the way, you can adjust the numbers to make it more realistic for your own situation... for example, a guaranteed $1,000 vs. 10% chance at $10,000, etc.
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