toilet paper

[Ima saver]

Wow, puppy I am impressed, I thought I had a lot on hand!

[getforfree]

I was at walgreens today, they had AngelSoft tp 4-roll pack for 79c ea. The limit is only 2 packages, but I got 6. I went to the store 3 times. I like it. It's soft, but not too soft, not too thin and strong enough.

[mountainmist]

Anybody here seen any suggestions on the amounts of paper products we should have stockpiled in case there is an outbreak of human-2-human avian flu?

One time last year, I read that you should make positive that you have straws on hand, in case you have a very ill family member who cannot be hospitalized.

AND plenty of disposable plates/dinnerware in case water utilities have problems operating, or if there is no available hot water for washing.

I have no idea how to calculate suitable amounts of paper products to have on hand - and I'm not certain how to rotate some of them - for instance, we never use any paper plates or paper cups or napkins.

And I suppose that it should be stored in the basement, because a huge quantity would be subject to dry rot in the attic or the garage rafters.

Yesterday I read an article which briefly mentioned that emergency workers should have three months of food stored for their families.... which got me back to wondering about kleenex and paper towels and toilet paper and paper plates, and garbage bags and and and and, it's tiring to think about....

[mountainmist]

Anybody here seen any suggestions on the amounts of paper products we should have stockpiled in case there is an outbreak of human-2-human avian flu?

One time last year, I read that you should make positive that you have straws on hand, in case you have a very ill family member who cannot be hospitalized.

AND plenty of disposable plates/dinnerware in case water utilities have problems operating, or if there is no available hot water for washing.

I have no idea how to calculate suitable amounts of paper products to have on hand - and I'm not certain how to rotate some of them - for instance, we never use any paper plates or paper cups or napkins.

And I suppose that it should be stored in the basement, because a huge quantity would be subject to dry rot in the attic or the garage rafters.

Yesterday I read an article which briefly mentioned that emergency workers should have three months of food stored for their families.... which got me back to wondering about kleenex and paper towels and toilet paper and paper plates, and garbage bags and and and and, it's tiring to think about....

[Bookie]

Makes you wonder who's going to be collecting all that garbage, doesn't it?

[Ima saver]

Well I stockpiled toilet paper this March and I still have not run out!

[getforfree]

If there will not be any water than maybe we should stockpile on clothes too, because we won't be able to do our laundry. That's way to expencive to stock up on 90 outfits for each person.

What are you going to do about showering?

About plates: instead of buying paper, just eat out of pot, and all you have to wash/replace is spoons, or take turns and you will waste only 1 spoon and 1 pot per meal for whole family.

Maybe they are telling us to stock up on all that stuff just so we would buy it and they would have more profit?

[mountainmist]

I don't know what to think. After 911, but before the threat of avian flu arose, the official party line was to have three days of food & water stocked along with a full first aid case and batteries, rain gear, etc.

But nowadays, there doesn't seem to be ONE set of instructions issued to the public, and if you start reading all the various interivews you'll learn that the experts all have different types of preps.

It seemed like it went from THREE DAYS of emergency supplies suddenly to a disagreement between the advisability of 3-WEEKS as opposed to 3-MONTHS.

I think last year I read that "they" were working on POSSIBLE plans to have the US Postal Service Mail Carriers deliver medicines house to house, and to have the National Guard deliver food door to door and pick up garbage.

I stopped reading about it when it seemed to me that the so-called experts were clueless in that they couldn't agree about specific instructions to issue to the public.

I've no idea if the Red Cross nowadays has similar advice in all 50 states for flu preps.

NO idea.

[mountainmist]

I don't know what to think. After 911, but before the threat of avian flu arose, the official party line was to have three days of food & water stocked along with a full first aid case and batteries, rain gear, etc.

But nowadays, there doesn't seem to be ONE set of instructions issued to the public, and if you start reading all the various interivews you'll learn that the experts all have different types of preps.

It seemed like it went from THREE DAYS of emergency supplies suddenly to a disagreement between the advisability of 3-WEEKS as opposed to 3-MONTHS.

I think last year I read that "they" were working on POSSIBLE plans to have the US Postal Service Mail Carriers deliver medicines house to house, and to have the National Guard deliver food door to door and pick up garbage.

I stopped reading about it when it seemed to me that the so-called experts were clueless in that they couldn't agree about specific instructions to issue to the public.

I've no idea if the Red Cross nowadays has similar advice in all 50 states for flu preps.

NO idea.

[mountainmist]

Originally Posted by getforfree

If there will not be any water than maybe we should stockpile on clothes too, because we won't be able to do our laundry. That's way to expencive to stock up on 90 outfits for each person.

What are you going to do about showering?

About plates: instead of buying paper, just eat out of pot, and all you have to wash/replace is spoons, or take turns and you will waste only 1 spoon and 1 pot per meal for whole family.

Maybe they are telling us to stock up on all that stuff just so we would buy it and they would have more profit?

Insofar as showering, I think that there was mention of rain collecting barrels and how to set up those "camp showers" in the back yard.

I really wish that the public would be issued instructions, but that's pretty impossible because if they did advise everyone to stockpile for three months and NO EPIDEMIC occurred, then probably noone would ever agiain listen to any health professional about anything for like fifty dozen generations.

I do have straws on hand, with the paper supplies, because back at that time someone mentioned that if you are caring for a violently ill person in your own home, that straws may be the only way to get them to swallow any liquids.

I haven't read about any of this in quite some time, so I've no idea what the current recommendations might be.

[mountainmist]

Originally Posted by getforfree

If there will not be any water than maybe we should stockpile on clothes too, because we won't be able to do our laundry. That's way to expencive to stock up on 90 outfits for each person.

What are you going to do about showering?

About plates: instead of buying paper, just eat out of pot, and all you have to wash/replace is spoons, or take turns and you will waste only 1 spoon and 1 pot per meal for whole family.

Maybe they are telling us to stock up on all that stuff just so we would buy it and they would have more profit?

Insofar as showering, I think that there was mention of rain collecting barrels and how to set up those "camp showers" in the back yard.

I really wish that the public would be issued instructions, but that's pretty impossible because if they did advise everyone to stockpile for three months and NO EPIDEMIC occurred, then probably noone would ever agiain listen to any health professional about anything for like fifty dozen generations.

I do have straws on hand, with the paper supplies, because back at that time someone mentioned that if you are caring for a violently ill person in your own home, that straws may be the only way to get them to swallow any liquids.

I haven't read about any of this in quite some time, so I've no idea what the current recommendations might be.

[mom-from-missouri]

I'd rather stock up on bleach and water. Having lived thru a house fire, I don't do much stocking up on paper products. They burn too quickly. I have a full pantry upstairs and one downstairs. I could probably go 3-4 months without going to the store. My pantry upstairs I restock from the bigger one downstairs. When I shop, items go into the downstairs one. The deepfreeze in the garage keeps meat and icecream (too lazy to go downstairs for the nightly icecream bowl). Downstairs freezer keeps breads, (I bake once every 2 weeks and freeze) and frozed pizzas and all that I can find on sale for cheaper than making them.
My big downstairs pantry is simply an alcove of shelves containing home canned & store bought canned goods in alphabetical order, soaps, toilerty items, school supplies, laundry items, batteries, lightbulbs, camping gear. When we load our RV, I pull in up to the backdoor and stock it from there.
I am not so worried about epidemics, as I am getting snowed in and away from the store. During bad weather I even freeze milk (be sure to first take a cup off every gallon to allow for expansion) to mix in halfway with powered milk.
We have a well, in addition to being on rural water, but I guess it could get contimated...I do keep about 6 gallons of water on hand-I just fill empty milk jugs and add a couple drops of bleach. I rotate it out about every 2 months-dump it in the sink for dishes or to flush with..
We have a fireplace upstairs and old wood antique cooking stove for downstairs, in addition to an old antique gas stove, and plenty of wood on hand and more we could cut.
Nope, paper products are last on my mind.....

[Hot dog]

Who'd have thought there was this much to say about toilet paper. I hate spending money on it I usually buy scotts because it is better for the sewer. When it goes on sale here it is usually .50 a roll and then try to get coupons. But the housekeeping people at my work have begun to give me the rolls of toilet paper that are half way gone because they can not leave them on over the weekend cause they will run out It is those big rolls I don't know if you think that is gross but I love getting it free they have been giving me the ends of the paper towels also Tehy work great for cleaningand I never buy paper towels anyway They are great for the bathroom Anyway where do they not have coupons I can't imagine I guess I thought everywhere was the same I am on the east coast We also get to use rainchecks for ever i guess I don't think they have an expiration date. The differences really amaze me

[Ima saver]

If anybody is worried about bathing or washing clothes, they can come over and use my creek! When I moved here, lots of people still had out houses that they used. We had no septic tank inspections or permits either.

[lrjohnson]

I had some 3 ply in Croatia. It was oddly rough and thin, for having three identifiable plies.

[Ima saver]

Do they still make toilet paper in colors any more. They use to!! I always bought pink.

[BTC]

Wal-Mart has some two ply stuff that's a dollar and change for a 6 roll pack.

[Mathew Green]

Originally Posted by mountainmist

I don't know what to think. After 911, but before the threat of avian flu arose, the official party line was to have three days of food & water stocked along with a full first aid case and batteries, rain gear, etc....It seemed like it went from THREE DAYS of emergency supplies suddenly to a disagreement between the advisability of 3-WEEKS as opposed to 3-MONTHS.

The standard advice for a long time has been to keep a minimum of three days supply of the things you'd need if you were unable to leave the house or had a major power blackout or whatever. The standard advice has also included for a long time the warning that it is advisable to have 3-weeks to 3-months of emergency supplies on hand if you live in an area where you might get snowed in, roads blocked by landslides, etc.

The current debate in the media is mostly pushing for the 3-month standard because in a disease panic staying at home would be your best protection, and as soon as the "stay home" order is issued unprepared people will swoop down like vultures and strip the shelves of local stores bare for several weeks.

If I may present two personal stories as evidence:

1) I used to live in the southeast. No danger of getting snowed in. But every 5-6 years there would be a big ice storm. No one had chains. No one knew how to drive on ice. The stores were all closed for several days even if you did manage to get there. Add to that XX% of the area losing electricity because of all the pinetrees snapping under the weight of the ice and knocking down power lines, and you needed to have at least a weeks worth of basic supplies on hand, including candles, batteries, and food that doesn't require electricity to fix. And this was in a fairly large city.

2) A couple of years ago I stepped in a hole and twisted my ankle. Not bad enough to be hopspitalized but I had to spend three weeks in bed with that leg elevated to keep the swelling down. Careful trips to the kitchen and bathroom were the limit of my walking around during that time, and if I hadn't had a months worth of heat-and-eat food on hand, I would have been sunk. Without that food, I would have had to ask casual friends to do my grocery shopping for me, and I really didn't want to impose on them, even though they would have willingly done it.