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Old 11-28-2007, 12:33 PM
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I'm 28, so I'm definitely not part of the system. Um here Retirement Doomsday - Forbes.com and Retirement savings fall short - Apr. 5, 2004

and pensions and savings? Sorry got it backwards. 41% have pensions but 62% expect a pension http://www.ebri.org/pdf/PR_764b_11Apr07.pdf

This is better than a blog, this is a survey conducted about people. Half of workers have less than $25k saved for retirement. Am I really so far off base as to say people can't save?

http://www.ebri.org/pdf/surveys/rcs/...7_FS_4_Sav.pdf

I don't think people are able to save their way to retirement.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:06 PM
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As long as one can disingenuously leave off any quantitative adjective in front of a collective noun while making a pronouncement, one isn't offbase. It would be offbase to assume that of a survey of 1262 randomly selected through telephone-dialing respondents, the data gathered can be extrapolated to accurately reflect the U.S. workforce.

The Consumer Expenditure Survey, a survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau under contract with the Bureau of Labor Statistics, contributed survey data for the Demos paper "By a Thread: The New Experience of America's Middle Class." What points one would make to show that "people aren't saving" could be more powerful coming from a more rigorous survey with a larger, wider collection of data sets.

But getting back to Presidential Politics, I request evidence that the economic threat of the middle-class is a crucial concern of the candidates. I cynically figure the candidates who demonstrate concern for and offer platforms advantageous to the middle-class are going to get shut out or shouted down by other concerns: public safety, immigration, homeland security, free trade, and Iraq.

It'd be a groove, too, if my questions regarding the Federalist Papers and today's US reality vs. the Constitutionalist idea of the U.S. would be answered. How about the Bill of Rights? What candidates show strong support for the Bill of Rights? Is the Bill of Rights still relevant? When people choose a candidate are they choosing a candidate that works to strengthen the large republic, or a candidate whose platform typifies the expressed common impulse of passion or interest that is adverse to the rights of other citizens? Is supporting a voice for the middle-class supporting a faction that threatens a representative democracy?
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The american people care about three things in presidential politics:

Gay marriage, flag burning, and Islamic terrorists.

Anything else, and you're wasting your breath.
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The american people care about three things in presidential politics:

Gay marriage, flag burning, and Islamic terrorists.
Well, thanks for bringing the thread back to presidential politics. What part of the country are you from and what is your political persuasion? While gay marriage is certainly important, I have to disagree that it is a central issue in this campaign. And flag burning? I haven't listened to all the debates, but I listen to several hours of talk show daily and watch the news channels and have yet to hear flag burning brought up (I'm in Texas). Maybe gay marriage and flag burning are hot issues in your neck of the woods, but I'd have to say the current top three issues are illegal immigration, border security, and the war on terror.
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