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Old 07-19-2009, 08:37 AM
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Hello friend i am talking for 2 days with the owner of the sites i mention yesterday. And he convinced me that they are not scam. But it wasn't my mistake. He says that they are partners with sites like care.org and i called care and care said they are not affiliated.
The site is not partner with them but he donates the money to them and lately he bought a new domain. That's why his site seems 1 month old. So many misunderstandings
Anyway just wanted you to know and i add his site to the Listing page.

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Kreal; thank you for all your advise ==== in my prayers always , may God the merciful one have compassion on us all
Amen to that my friend
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:54 PM
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Kreal ; keep up the good work , investigate , and make sure that no one is stealing , for any one who steal from the poor is like stealing from God ======== well I have more people telling others about the good sites , that help so many people who are in need ====== peace friend
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Old 07-20-2009, 07:16 AM
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Thank you my friend
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:04 AM
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Hello my friend, how are you
I got used to talk with you everyday
1 day without talking make me feel weird
I will go to my country in 10 days and maybe i can't come online for 10 days
I will miss you
I hope you are great
God bless you
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:47 PM
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Hello my friend, how are you
I got used to talk with you everyday
1 day without talking make me feel weird
I will go to my country in 10 days and maybe i can't come online for 10 days
I will miss you
I hope you are great
God bless you
Hi kreal , been busy getting as many people to click in your site , as well the sites in the forum ==== have a nice trip home
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:14 PM
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Thanks a lot
I know you are working for the site, we are getting more and more traffic everyday
I am trying to lead people to use "Surf to donate" to help more sites
Actually i have good news. I got accepted from a good advertising network, i think they cover most of the world not only US
Thank you for everything you have done, especially for your constant mental support to me.
Now i am always like i was always before when i check the stats
Till now we collected $49.03 in our advertisement account without a good advertising company and really few visitors.
Now we have a good advertising company and better traffic, i am sure next month will be much good (of course if God will help us)
My ticket confirmed to 2nd. of August. I think i can't write daily till 15th of August, but i will try to come online. I would miss you
Take care my friend
God bless you and your family and people you love
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:30 PM
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That is great news my friend , and God willing more , and more blessings would come your way . I will miss talking to you too , but it is good to go back home , besides you deserve a nice vacation ====== you are in my prayers , and may peace be with you , and your family . I remember the first time we talked , you were a bit down , but thank to God things had changed a lot , and according to his will , more children will be fed , and more trees planted ========= could you imagine if only 10% percent of people were to do that ? ===it would be great , for whoever gives food to a little one is saying I care , and not with just words , but with action , and in that my friend you have shown to truly care , but to God be the glory ===== we are his servants . Rejoice my friend , for God have bigger plans for you , and there is not greater joy than to be chosen by God to do his will , and his will is good .

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Old 07-23-2009, 10:10 AM
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Thank you my friend

Its obvious that the God is helping us, He answered our prayers. More and more people coming everyday. We are making more money, sending more people to other click to donate sites. We earning and also help other sites earning too

There are also other things that i gained to design this site. I had the honor to know you and to talk with you. And also few other people. They are also working for to help, just like us. They are looking for new click to donate sites for me to add the site

I am so happy that there are still some people who have good heart left

God bless you my friend
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:45 PM
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That is great news Kreal , and I rejoice with you knowing that children have water , food , and a better world to live on . I cannot take such an honor my friend , as I told you before , this was your project from day one ======= it was God's will , that I would be around to give you a word of encouragement or two , and that God would listen to my prayers when it came to you , according to his tender mercies , but you were the one who worked hard , the one who convinced others into given , the one who worked in the design of web pages ===== that was you , and the reward is yours,for you earned it to say otherwise would be lying , and those who know me , know that I despise lies=== today , as was praying and the sun was coming up , I though of you , and prayed for you , that God guide you , and protect you where ever you go , and I saw the the trees , and the plants in the garden , and I said to my self this beautiful things shall be all over the world , and then i smiled for I know some one who is working to do just that , and that is you , my honor is to have known you kreal ===== but I am not going to take more of your time , just keep on the good work for this is what the world needs , and a lot of love -------- peace my friend
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:48 AM
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I had a dream last night about the site and i think about it
Its very hard to explain so i won't try to explain
After i think about it, i decided to close the site
I returned the funds we collect to the advertisers
I am sorry my friend
I had to do it
Now i just left the listing of click to donate sites
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Old 07-25-2009, 02:01 AM
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Rather troubled by your answer , but let it be God's will ===== I will have you in my prayers friend
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Old 07-26-2009, 02:48 AM
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Thank you for your support
I am impressed by your Faith
It was really hard and sad decision for me and i was thinking how you will react
But as usual you are always supporting me
Thank you, i don't know how to express my feelings
God bless you
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Old 07-26-2009, 03:44 AM
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You quite welcome kreal . I wanted to know if I should send people to the old site or should I postpone it ? === as for faith , is all have my friend , and even if had anything else or every thing in the world I would never trade it for my faith , see what happened to Solomon in all his wisdom , he allowed the foolishness of some women to leave God for images , and false gods or demons ===== I pray that God grants me wisdom , patience , love ...... but above all faith in God , the rest my friend is just added , like a gift unexpected . He knows my heart , He also knows that I a man , I ask him in all my prayers to grant me faith ==== to him be the power , and the glory forever ====== our lives are but brief wind , He endures for eternity ==== so let us wait in his will , than rush in our foolishness Kreal we love him , and he knows that , we want to help the needy , and he also knows this , we want to give to the whole world , and help === HE knows more than ourselves ==== so let HIM show us his ways , when he think is right ==== it is better to obey him , than all we think we can do without him , it would not be worthy , and I know that you know this ==== peace be to you where ever you may be , and remain faithful to him , as I will God willing ===== do that which is right in his eyes , and the world would praise HIM for you loving actions
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:56 PM
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Hello my friend, you can send people to the site. I made a list of click to donate sites, people can click from there. This is all i can do

Today i was thinking about you and i was planing to give you an example about Abraham that God ask Abraham to sacrifice his son and send a sheep or a lamb at the last moment.

You see that web site was like my son that The God wanted me to sacrifice thats why i was planing to tell you the story to express how i felt.

But I wasn't quite sure that if Bible has the story or not. So i couldn't decide if i can tell you or not.

After i read about the tale you mention about Solomon than i decided to tell you

I love God and i also pray Him to grant me and you faith. And i also pray that to show me the right decision and keep me on that decision, even i don't like it.

Being a believer is really hard, especially in this world. To keep yourself away from sin is more than hard. Without His love, its impossible.

I hope He will show us new ways that we can help people soon. I am waiting with patience.

God bless you my friend

Thank you for everything you have done

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Old 07-29-2009, 02:26 AM
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Kreal === the LORD provides -------- stay away from anyone who may be cause of temptation , and ask God to help you not sin , and if you have , ask for forgiveness and do not do it again === trust in God , and his mercies =======today over 500 children in Argentina have been fed , many trees from Canada to Africa planted . do you know that between 250,000 to halve a million children will go blind due to a lack of vitamin A , iodine , and Iron ------ all this supplements are really cheap , and if we could save a child from going blind it would be great ===== now imagine halve of a million yearly ? ===== I wish there would be no need in the world , but it is a fact ==== so when you are ready tell me about it , for this is for His children , his trees , his animals ===== we are His servants
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:56 PM
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I agree with you RedThunderBird and i do my best to help people in need.

Remember my first post in this forum ? I wasn't a believer like this before. Its been less than a year that i became a believer and before that i was a sinner.

I can't say i am young anymore, that means i had so many time to collect so many sins. Yes God's forgiveness is infinite but from my point of view i have to make it up for Him.

That's why i am trying to do good stuff. So maybe then i can ask His forgiveness and maybe then i will be forgiven. That's why, you are right. We are His servants. Because i do not believe Heaven is cheap and i don't believe it will be crowded either.

Can you provide me a website for the Argentina kids ?
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:26 AM
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Kreal , my friend I spent hours meditating in your answer . I did this because I wanted to make sure that I would not give you a misleading answer , and true wisdom comes from God === not man ==== you said God's forgiveness is infinite , but from my point of view I have to make it up to him ===== do you see what I see . you are truly right God is merciful beyond our imagination [ a year before you did not know , and did not care to know this true ] but today you say God's mercy is infinite , do you know why you said that ? it is because today you are a believer ===== so go ahead and ask HIM for forgiveness but only if you have repented from what you have done , other wise do not , for HE ask for a genuine repentance ==== do you want sin even more by saying I have to make it up to him , before you ask for forgiveness ? ======= that is not right , for at the end will sin every day the difference is that we ask God to forgive us , and to teach us not to sin again ====== what can you do for God ? obey him ! , outside of that there is nothing that you can make up to him , for he needs nothing , but our obedience . if you were to feed every child , and help all the needy in the world , could you make it up to him ? the answer is no , for then you would not need God for any thing [ God forbid it ] so ask , I know HE would forgive you ===== I am a Cristian , and I do believe that Jesus Christ obedience to God to the point of dying [ and resurrecting in the third day ] paying for the disobedience of Adam gave the way to receive forgiveness , but I still have to ask , and repent from my previous sins === I do not ask a man to intercede for me . I ask God , and accept his forgiveness out his love , and infinite wisdom ==== afterward we act accordingly knowing that even in the judgment day we will judged again for every thing we did even while being believers , but because our love to God , and obedience to him , and in my case what Jesus Christ did for me , and the spirit of the Holy ONE ---we will be saved . my friend if there is something you can do for the person you hurt , do it ====== but do not keep on waiting to ask God for his forgiveness === he loves you , that is the reason why he had mercy on you while you were not a believer ===== do not loose that mercy by saying I have to earn paradise , instead accept God's mercy , and let HIM change you into the man HE wants you to be ==== a forgiven man , a man of God , and while on this earth help those you can help , for it is God's will , and HIS will is good ===== praised be his name for all eternity . btw Kreal you know that there are many children in need all over the world , this you know quite well ==== some times is very difficult since I love to help all the children of the world , regardles of religion , race or country ==== but right in this forum I found children from Argentina who the only food will come from our clicks --- I hope we can get 500 plates of food daily , according to God's will Porlos Chicos

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Old 07-31-2009, 02:27 AM
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What i am saying is also involved with what i am believing. Let me explain
We do believe God's forgiveness is infinite but He tell us that we better not come to Him with the rights of the other people.

Here is a point that we are different from Christians. How? Let me explain

For example according to my religion drinking is sin but if you drink alone at home or a bar but if you do not hurt anyone then its a sin against God. But if you steal some money from some guy. Then its a sin to a person. He says that He will forgive us if we ask for forgiveness but He will forgive the sins against Him, not the sins against people.

To be forgiven for those sins against people is more complicated. For example if i steal your money then i should return it to you or ask you to forgive me. If i can't find you or if you are dead then i must do a lot of good deeds and ask God to give those good deeds to you. And also i must pray for you.

We are also ordered to hope and to afraid at the same time. This means that a person should hope for heaven for his good deeds but at the same time he should afraid maybe that will not be enough and he must keep living decent religious life.

What i can do for God outside of obeying Him ? There are some stuff. According to our book i can help people in need, i can help any people from any country and any religion if they do not attack my religion (Islam ) personally.

God doesn't need anything, that's for sure, but He is giving me money, food, a life. I can spend that life, money and food for less fortunate people. Its my test to give them, its their test to be less fortunate. Maybe someday i will be a less fortunate. Only God knows that.

So i meant by saying to make it up for Him, that i can do good stuff to prove that i am a good person. Because saying something is very different than doing something. By doing something i will have a positive evidence

I hope He will forgive me, my family and you and your family. But trust me things will be very different when we leave this world. Judgment will be perfect. I can explain that too.

For example, a guy normally would give 5 dollars to his son and his son normally take the bus with that money to go to school. But that day if someone steal that 5 dollars then the guy can't give that money to his son and his son have to walk school and if something happens to him because of walking then the thief is responsible.

From the perspective of the thief its just 5 dollars, but in the reality its not just 5 dollars, its a life. So it isn't that easy to pay what you have done in this world.

I also do believe Jesus Christ but i don't believe he is the son of God and we also do not believe he was crucified. We believe that God change Jesus with the man who deceived Jesus and we believe God took away Jesus from this world and we also believe that Jesus will return near the end of days.

Actually according to our prophet's words, it should be very near. Because our prophet said that near the end of the days there will be : high buildings, people will speak each other from one side of the world to the other side(cell phone), people will hear voices coming from the sky (television or radio), there will be many poor people, there will be many non-believers and gays, earthquakes will increase, cities will be destroyed within a night (war technology)........... all happened. There are few left that didn't happened yet. So it seems like Jesus will come back soon Of course only God knows.

I am really glad that you know that a man can't forgive you. Actually its common sense.

As i told you before i am not trying to earn paradise. Of course that would be great but i am not into that. All i care about is what God will think of me.

About children, for us, all children are no different than angels. That's why i also do not care what race they are or which country they are from

I know Porlos Chicos. Its in my list and clicking everyday

Thank you my friend.

God bless you

P.S: You know i do not mention the name of my religion because i know how people in U.S looking to us. I am just trying to avoid useless arguments. Unfortunately in U.S people believe everything that they saw on tv. But with economic crisis its changing Not everything you see is true on tv, especially if it is about my religion, because we have oil

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Kreal ==== I see we have many misunderstandings , for once Islam is protected , and respected in this country from the very beginning of the independence , if you read Benjamin Franklin auto biography you will read that it was important that all religions were respected , and that he personally would rather have a place where all religions could express their views , that just a christian one ------ no muslin have being persecuted in this country for their religion --- I know this personally ---- this country was created with the idea that GOD was , and is the all providence or protection to guide this country in the right direction , and that the freedom to worship , to liberty , and the right of speaking freely is a God given right ==== this country is no nice to the Muslims because they have oil , but because we believe that Muslims have the same right to worship God they way they want to === the motto of this country is "out of many one " , and could tell you that Muslims , Christians , Jews , believer or non believers we would come out with cars that would not need oil , God willing ---- mistakes have been made in this country , and many have being fixed , we argue with each other , but at the end with know that this is our home , and will defend it together ---- but let me tell you , if you only knew how many times I have hoped that some day -- Jews , Muslims , Christians would be together as brothers , you know my friend since I was a boy I used to dream and look to the stars and wonder , I was a dreamer in beautiful land with a communist government [ beware of them , they do not believe in any one , not even themselves ] a very bad situation , but we escaped and moved to the land of my father === Spain , and from there to this great Country , but you know after all this troubles , and pains I know that my dream will come true === God willing , and let me tell you I have tasted the goodness of GOD , and what separate us in our believes , are less that what unites us . I am glad that you talked straight to me ==== do what you most do , I respect your decision , and your faith , as I know you also respect mine , but think who would say two guys half way across the world , from different faiths would get to share one love for the one GOD ======= is his will , and his will is good ========
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Old 07-31-2009, 03:01 PM
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i don't want an argument about this but i want you to know things are different outside of U.S.

Muslims maybe treated equal in U.S and all the rights and stuff but for example in Iraq few years ago in the war 5 million people get killed. Around 1 million women raped. (I bet you can't see these numbers on tv ) For what ? 9/11 ? Come on !! Everyone who has a brain knows that its for oil. If you got attacked by terrorists you would kill terrorists, not countries. You wouldn't rape women.Now in Afghanistan, its like this. I don't get anything wrong

Trust me, check many websites, even yahoo finance. Check people's comments if there is a news about Muslims or oil Almost all comments are like lets nuke them all. We have 1.5 billion people, it would take really long time to nuke us all

I have friends in U.S. They are not even religious. They say people hate Muslims. So maybe Miami is different. Maybe its because of the hot weather there

Anyway it wasn't my point, my point was, it is useless and meaningless to talk or argue about this. According to all religions tyrants always win in this world (at least for while), but this world never lasts

Moses and Jews killed and run away from Pharaoh, Rome killed Jesus according to Christians, i can give many examples but i don't know the English names of the countries and the prophets, but you know them that's for sure

I am not looking which country attacked which country or which religion attacked which religion. I am looking who killed children or who
raped women. That's what i care about. Men can die while defending or fighting for their country or their religion. I don't have a problem with that but when it comes to children and women, then it hurts me, no matter which religion or which country

And its for a stupid thing. OIL! Life is cheaper than $70/barrel. Because of the same oil companies, we are talking when Global Warming will kill us all. Less than 10 years there won't be ice at north pole during summer. According to Oxfam, there will be huge food crisis before 2040 if we don't act fast.

I do respect your faith and i told you before that there are so many stuff that i like about your faith. Actually our life's are quite similar about eating and believing. I just pray 5 times a day and believe 1 more prophet than you. That's all Ohh i am also against meditation because its something Buddhist and Indian belief. Both are believing stones and statues.

Anyway, I will fly back to my country tomorrow, maybe i can't write daily
Sorry about that
Take good care

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