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[kreal]

Thank you for your support
I am impressed by your Faith
It was really hard and sad decision for me and i was thinking how you will react
But as usual you are always supporting me
Thank you, i don't know how to express my feelings
God bless you

[kreal]

Hello my friend, you can send people to the site. I made a list of click to donate sites, people can click from there. This is all i can do

Today i was thinking about you and i was planing to give you an example about Abraham that God ask Abraham to sacrifice his son and send a sheep or a lamb at the last moment.

You see that web site was like my son that The God wanted me to sacrifice thats why i was planing to tell you the story to express how i felt.

But I wasn't quite sure that if Bible has the story or not. So i couldn't decide if i can tell you or not.

After i read about the tale you mention about Solomon than i decided to tell you

I love God and i also pray Him to grant me and you faith. And i also pray that to show me the right decision and keep me on that decision, even i don't like it.

Being a believer is really hard, especially in this world. To keep yourself away from sin is more than hard. Without His love, its impossible.

I hope He will show us new ways that we can help people soon. I am waiting with patience.

God bless you my friend

Thank you for everything you have done

[kreal]

I agree with you RedThunderBird and i do my best to help people in need.

Remember my first post in this forum ? I wasn't a believer like this before. Its been less than a year that i became a believer and before that i was a sinner.

I can't say i am young anymore, that means i had so many time to collect so many sins. Yes God's forgiveness is infinite but from my point of view i have to make it up for Him.

That's why i am trying to do good stuff. So maybe then i can ask His forgiveness and maybe then i will be forgiven. That's why, you are right. We are His servants. Because i do not believe Heaven is cheap and i don't believe it will be crowded either.

Can you provide me a website for the Argentina kids ?

[kreal]

What i am saying is also involved with what i am believing. Let me explain
We do believe God's forgiveness is infinite but He tell us that we better not come to Him with the rights of the other people.

Here is a point that we are different from Christians. How? Let me explain

For example according to my religion drinking is sin but if you drink alone at home or a bar but if you do not hurt anyone then its a sin against God. But if you steal some money from some guy. Then its a sin to a person. He says that He will forgive us if we ask for forgiveness but He will forgive the sins against Him, not the sins against people.

To be forgiven for those sins against people is more complicated. For example if i steal your money then i should return it to you or ask you to forgive me. If i can't find you or if you are dead then i must do a lot of good deeds and ask God to give those good deeds to you. And also i must pray for you.

We are also ordered to hope and to afraid at the same time. This means that a person should hope for heaven for his good deeds but at the same time he should afraid maybe that will not be enough and he must keep living decent religious life.

What i can do for God outside of obeying Him ? There are some stuff. According to our book i can help people in need, i can help any people from any country and any religion if they do not attack my religion (Islam ) personally.

God doesn't need anything, that's for sure, but He is giving me money, food, a life. I can spend that life, money and food for less fortunate people. Its my test to give them, its their test to be less fortunate. Maybe someday i will be a less fortunate. Only God knows that.

So i meant by saying to make it up for Him, that i can do good stuff to prove that i am a good person. Because saying something is very different than doing something. By doing something i will have a positive evidence

I hope He will forgive me, my family and you and your family. But trust me things will be very different when we leave this world. Judgment will be perfect. I can explain that too.

For example, a guy normally would give 5 dollars to his son and his son normally take the bus with that money to go to school. But that day if someone steal that 5 dollars then the guy can't give that money to his son and his son have to walk school and if something happens to him because of walking then the thief is responsible.

From the perspective of the thief its just 5 dollars, but in the reality its not just 5 dollars, its a life. So it isn't that easy to pay what you have done in this world.

I also do believe Jesus Christ but i don't believe he is the son of God and we also do not believe he was crucified. We believe that God change Jesus with the man who deceived Jesus and we believe God took away Jesus from this world and we also believe that Jesus will return near the end of days.

Actually according to our prophet's words, it should be very near. Because our prophet said that near the end of the days there will be : high buildings, people will speak each other from one side of the world to the other side(cell phone), people will hear voices coming from the sky (television or radio), there will be many poor people, there will be many non-believers and gays, earthquakes will increase, cities will be destroyed within a night (war technology)........... all happened. There are few left that didn't happened yet. So it seems like Jesus will come back soon Of course only God knows.

I am really glad that you know that a man can't forgive you. Actually its common sense.

As i told you before i am not trying to earn paradise. Of course that would be great but i am not into that. All i care about is what God will think of me.

About children, for us, all children are no different than angels. That's why i also do not care what race they are or which country they are from

I know Porlos Chicos. Its in my list and clicking everyday

Thank you my friend.

God bless you

P.S: You know i do not mention the name of my religion because i know how people in U.S looking to us. I am just trying to avoid useless arguments. Unfortunately in U.S people believe everything that they saw on tv. But with economic crisis its changing Not everything you see is true on tv, especially if it is about my religion, because we have oil

[kreal]

i don't want an argument about this but i want you to know things are different outside of U.S.

Muslims maybe treated equal in U.S and all the rights and stuff but for example in Iraq few years ago in the war 5 million people get killed. Around 1 million women raped. (I bet you can't see these numbers on tv ) For what ? 9/11 ? Come on !! Everyone who has a brain knows that its for oil. If you got attacked by terrorists you would kill terrorists, not countries. You wouldn't rape women.Now in Afghanistan, its like this. I don't get anything wrong

Trust me, check many websites, even yahoo finance. Check people's comments if there is a news about Muslims or oil Almost all comments are like lets nuke them all. We have 1.5 billion people, it would take really long time to nuke us all

I have friends in U.S. They are not even religious. They say people hate Muslims. So maybe Miami is different. Maybe its because of the hot weather there

Anyway it wasn't my point, my point was, it is useless and meaningless to talk or argue about this. According to all religions tyrants always win in this world (at least for while), but this world never lasts

Moses and Jews killed and run away from Pharaoh, Rome killed Jesus according to Christians, i can give many examples but i don't know the English names of the countries and the prophets, but you know them that's for sure

I am not looking which country attacked which country or which religion attacked which religion. I am looking who killed children or who
raped women. That's what i care about. Men can die while defending or fighting for their country or their religion. I don't have a problem with that but when it comes to children and women, then it hurts me, no matter which religion or which country

And its for a stupid thing. OIL! Life is cheaper than $70/barrel. Because of the same oil companies, we are talking when Global Warming will kill us all. Less than 10 years there won't be ice at north pole during summer. According to Oxfam, there will be huge food crisis before 2040 if we don't act fast.

I do respect your faith and i told you before that there are so many stuff that i like about your faith. Actually our life's are quite similar about eating and believing. I just pray 5 times a day and believe 1 more prophet than you. That's all Ohh i am also against meditation because its something Buddhist and Indian belief. Both are believing stones and statues.

Anyway, I will fly back to my country tomorrow, maybe i can't write daily
Sorry about that
Take good care

[kreal]

I don't want to repeat myself but as i told you i don't want any argument about this.

All i wrote was what i read constantly from people's comments. I don't even write them.

You can love your country and Israel, its normal for you. Its your country anyway.

I didn't understand which part you are disagree with Raping and killing children part? You can check from U.S and non-U.S websites. A simple google search would do it.
You can find many sites like this crypt notes: May 2004 Archives , and with 1000's of comments that they are proud of their soldiers

I can understand your support. But be fair and ask yourself Whose army in whose country ? Their ? or Yours ?

[kreal]

I am nowhere near hate or propaganda

The issue came up and i explained what i am thinking.

I am not defending any country or any religion. I am trying to be fair.

I feel sad when a kid killed in China or in Australia or in Chili.

I just didn't understand your behave, you were like defending this crimes.

I didn't mention my religion for a long time, if i wanted propaganda i would do that at the beginning.

But i know its useless and it would cause argument because nobody cares what is happening

If you call HATE to defend children or poor women then you can forget God's mercy.

I can fight for any women who got rapped or any children who got killed. I don't care which country they are from or which religion they believe.

If tomorrow same happens to U.S. Then i am ready to fight for that too.

I think thats the real way of GOD. Defending people which you like and abandon or staying silent for the others is not the way of God.

That's what i understand from all religions that i read. From Christianity, from Islam, from Old Testament, from Buddhist beliefs...

I really regret to hear that you try to defend who you like and who you don't like

Anyway, sorry i bother you then

I would better not write here if you saying that i am writing for hate and propaganda

As Jesus said once: i am only here to warn and try to show you the truth whether you believe or not

Bye

[poundwise]

Ok. Way off-topic and pushing the limits of the rules of the forum.

kreal and RedThunderbird, consider this a warning against continuing this discussion elsewhere on the forum. This thread and this discussion are now closed.