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Originally Posted by jIM_Ohio
So how much does the market need to decline before we all need to invest in guns and ammo?
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Well, if the indications of the incoming secondary wave of recession sending the Dow spiraling further down turns out to be true....
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Originally Posted by jIM_Ohio
While some of you here would probably say owning a gun would protect us more, my wife has said she could not stand to have a gun around.
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I would not be one of those.... I'm not a tool-orientated person. Well, yes I am, but I'm more of a mindset/training-orientated person. Anyone who is reasonably trained in this field will tell you the same. But when you think about it, this also applies to just about any other field. That isn't to say that tools aren't important, just that training and mindset is much more so.
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Originally Posted by Johansen8
I have known a great many people that have used their guns in self defense, and not always by firing them!
Sometimes just "showing a little steel" can make the perp back off (showing is fine, but be ready to back it up!).
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If you truly want to defend your home, the experts will tell you to get a shotgun. Any handgun has an effective range of about 35 feet. Beyond that distance, you may not hit your target. With a shotgun and some scatter buck shot, you are going to hit what you are aiming at.
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Respectfully, I have to strongly disagree with this. Showing your weapon without the proper context of life-and-death situation is a felony in my state, and I doubt mine is the only one. The best thing to do is to make sure you are up-to-date with the relevant state laws. Make sure you know precisely when you can and can not pull out your gun. Otherwise, you could end up in jail.
I've pulled my gun on several occasions, in my previous line of work. All of them were justified, and about the only reason I didn't pull the trigger was because, at the last second, they either backed off or ran off. Show of force was never part of the plan. No, I had planned to shoot them, but again, the situation changed at the last second. And that's what most trainers here would tell you anyway, that if you pull your gun, be sure it's a situation you really are justified to do so and that you seriously intend to shoot. Otherwise, don't do it.
I also have somewhat a thing against shotguns, but I've listed them earlier in this thread so I won't regurgitate it. Suffice to say, there's a myth about scatter guns not requiring any precision aiming. Yes, that's a myth. Anyone who has shot clay from even 10 yards out knows that you do have to have a decent aim to hit it.
The thing is, even if you have a perfect shot spread, I've long argued that it isn't necessarily a good thing. One of the cardinal rules of firearm safety is to know what you're going to hit. If you're in an environment where there's a lot of people or things around that you don't want to damage, you may not always be able to account for where your pellets are going to scatter to.
Plus, I wonder if people realize how much felt recoil is in a shotgun? And yeah, call me a wimp, but it's also heavy and unwieldy. Not my idea of an ideal CQC tool.
But don't get me wrong. They are a lot of wizards out there that can work magic with the shotgun, so really, it goes back to my earlier point about skill trumping tools.