[Bruce Wayne]

Its interesting to read your arguments VJW.

If you study society and systems in general you'll find that there are two kinds of system, man made and spontaneous.

Spontaneous systems provide inhabitants with clear rules and then let them operate within those rules however they please. This type of management works very well when the system is so large and complex that it is impossible for single men or groups of men to successfully govern each of the systems constituents. Examples include nature.

Man made systems on the other hand try to manipulate the operation of that system by managing the activities of its' inhabitants. Examples of man made systems include companies and families where the manager could be seen to know best and the system has a clear goal and outcome to aspire to, typically only possible in small systems.

It seems to me that you believe that society can be managed wheras I believe that such attempts are doomed to failure because society is simply too large and too complex to even begin to make decisions for each of the individuals within it, each with their own unique circumstances and dreams. Instead I believe that society would flourish if simple rules were enforced and the individuals allowed to live how they please as long as they follow the simple rules. It is in the enforcement of these rules that government should be active, not the provision of any service.

If you believe this system is doomed for failure I ask you to consider nature and how it flourishes without having any one thing manage it in the billions of years it has been in existence.