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All I can say, is that some of the best cost cutting medical procedures and so forth come from countries with national health care because they are always looking to find new ways to save money.

In the USA 40 cents of every health care dollar goes to administration. while in the UK or Canada it is 11 cents.

"Well you might have to wait . . ."

Yeh, four or five days to have a kidney stone blasted with sound waves on a lithotripter machine before it passes out harmlessly from your body. Yeh, well I'll take the morphene for four or five days, instead of having it done in 2 days here in the USA.

oh yea, cost here in the USA: $60,000 for one treatment.

Why do you wait in Canda, because they only have 15 machines in the whole country. they're a small country with limited resources.

Lets see, go bankrupt and lose everything, wait four or five days on painkilling drugs . . .

hmm, seems and easy choice to me.

Many business move opperations to countries with national health care because they save money (like Toyota opening in Ontario rather then USA).
So the USA keeps loosing high tech manufacturing jobs to other countries.

Canda and the Uk spend about $2,800 per person on health care and USA spend about $9,000. If Canada (with 26,000,00 people) had our resources, they'd be jumping for joy.

Big drug companies and corperations that profit, keep our health care system schizophrinc because they directly profit.

With nationalized health care, a DOCTOR will be the gate keeper, not the insurance company or the drug company for that matter.

You know how you turn a conservative into a liberal? Give him cancer and no access to insurance. they change real quick, like my now deceased boss.
When the shoe was on the other foot, he certainly had a big change of heart. remember folks, 1 in 3 of us will eventually have cancer.

Don't like nationalized health care, oh I see, all those minorities will go down and "get on the welfare". Sorry Mr. Bigot, but once again, Doctors are the gatekeepers. Also, Most doctors become doctors because they care about people and that field fascinates them. not to make big bucks $$$$.

truth is, if my doctors only motivation was money, i don't want to see him.

Americans need to realize that they are all just cattle to big business; something to be used and then expended. Wake up people.

Your gonna pay for health care one way or the other, you mine as well spread the risk to everyone, so it's the least exspensive.

hey, if the US army can buy medicine and bulk and get a discount, why cant medicare? oh that right, the politician who wrote the bill, retired and went to the Phramacy lobby group the next year. there is your reason for the crsis in health care.

Something is better then nothing, and right now, we have nothing.

But hey, what would jesus do?